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One of the things that has been intriguing me for the last three years is what makes people change and truly adopt the internet in its full glory. In other words what allows people to become open random supportive in their everyday life both at home and at work.

So I went ahead and studied Managers, Entrepreneurs and Leaders to see if there was a difference in their behaviour.

What I discovered was a surprise to me.

There are ORS Managers.
There are ORS Leaders.
There are ORS Entrepreneurs.

A further surprise to me was:

There are CSC Managers.
There are CSC Leaders.
There are CSC Entrepreneurs.

So online acceptance is not do with type of behaviour Manager, Leader, Entrepreneur. Online acceptance is to do with mental state at that time and this varies:

Being Open not Closed.
Being Random not Selective.
Being Supportive not Controlling.

Now I needed help to devise a questionnaire to determine percentage levels of:

Open versus Closed
Random versus Selective
Supportive versus Controlling

Each of these percentages needed classifying against whether someone was a manager, a leader or an entrepreneur and their percentage levels too. Lastly I needed to determine someone's risk profile or at least their stance on risk. Risk profile and appetite (the internet is risky) varies based on ones personal financial health regardless of their business or company position i.e. big successful company but going through a divorce.

What I needed was a mathematician dressed as a business coach. I found Darren Shirlaw. May I encourage you to read Darren's first two blogs - Reconnecting Your Business Vision and Income Follows Assets

Darren and I worked together with his team and Penny and we devised a three step profiling process we call ELMORS Risk Model.

In 2012 we are bringing this approach to market and want to work with people who are used to working with Boards of Directors over long periods. If this is you please make a comment here and drop me a note on thomas.power@ecademy.com

For those of you unfamiliar with CSC and ORS the video is here:

Mick Say

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What would your guess have been Thomas

Hi T If you had to predict the final percentage of the ORS's - BEFORE you started the survey what would you have predicted ? Mick 69 results in so far indicate: ORS 26% OSS 26% ORC 13% OSC 10% CSS 13% CSC 6% CRS 3% CRC 3%

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Thomas Power

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69 results in so far indicate: ORS 26% OSS 26% ORC 13% OSC 10% CSS 13% CSC 6% CRS 3% CRC 3% If you would like to complete the ORS questionnaire please email william.buist@ecademy.com

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Jonathan 'EQ' Hill

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Great blog Thomas, what you are educating here are the fundamentals of great leadership: ORS - equivalent to building our 'Arena' as a leader, having open, honest, transparent and real conversations and working relationships - that build TRUST CSC - equivalent to leading within a 'Facade', being closed, secretive and with-holding - that builds CAUTION. Institutions are cautious which limits their impact, productivity and profitability hugely. The greatest example of the dangers of CSC recently has been the impact and closure of News Of The World, an organisation that still did a lot of good alongside questionable leadership and practices. ORS can only be the future, but as you say it will take time and effort to change habits and mindset. Credit to your presentation style too, it is open, humble and adds value. Great work. Best wishes, Jonathan.

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Thomas Power

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Apply to join the ELMORS team here http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=club&c=9856 Complete your ELMORS Application here http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=club&op=editpage&c=9856&p=2# Thank you.

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Gordon Wheaton

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Good blog Thomas and great summary Regards Gordon

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Thomas Power

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Apply here to be an ELMORS Practitioner Join http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=club&c=9856 Complete Application http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=club&c=9856&p=2#

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David Driscoll

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John ORS is natural to us all but at times we don't know we have these skills until we are told. For instance. I didn't know that. CSC is for people that don't need to use ORS but now we create business using both.

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David Driscoll

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Thomas See your point regarding CCROSS. Wouldn't that person be a psychotic? Yes, maybe if he didn't know he had them skills. Think back when you were with Lord Sugar. If Lord Sugar would have said " Before 2010 i'll be a Lord". Honestly a football chairman a Lord how ridiculous. And now? You must have seen over the years how quicker the youngest are and how much more input there brains can take. Like yourself no doubt when you were fearless ( a risk taker perhaps). This is my point in a year CCROSS will be as one. At present you so kindly asked us to reply to two subjects "ORS" "CSC". Facebook, Skype are now as one but when skype was on it's own not so powerful but together skype is now growing faster than can be imagined, mention skype mention Facebook. If you have one half of the equation all need to do is find the other half is it not.

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Michael Hargreaves

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Having just got back from holidays and now spending some time reading the blogs it is interesting to see just how much of the comment has focused on definitions in respnse to Thomas's original request for assistance to write a questionaire. Definitions are very important to questionnaires and separate "characteristics" from "variables". In the case of Thomas's questionnaire I am thinking that "characteristics" will be owners, managers, thought leaders, and (perhaps) none of the above. Variables will be behavioural "ORS" or "CSC" that require testing under different "Conditions" - behaviours at work, home, and social (let's not forget mobile usage of the internet outside work and home). Many of the questions will probably framed as ... At work you are most likely to .... (a), (b), (c), (d) and similarly phrased for home and social conditions. You will also need questions to validate self-assessments such as ... Faced with the "describe situation" you are most likely to .. (a), (b), (c), (d). Two other things that cross my mind concern the influence of culture and the non-voluntary pressure to conform/behave in a work environment. The latter invites segmentation of management into low, middle, and high as well as a quesiton on workplace number of employees. Once the questions are written a program widely used by academics, SPSS, could be used for analysing the answers. Are there any thoughts as to making the questionnaire available online - web and mobile? Thomas, I am happy to assist you with the writing of a "quantifiable" questionnaire and analysis as it fits in with my interest of how the internet is influencing innovation. While on holidays I purchased and started reading a number of books - some focusing on large corporate responses and others more entrpreneurial. Some of the information gathering and collaboration tools being used by big business suggest that they are learning very fast how to dominate their markets online. My intention this year is, with the help of a friend, is to create a number of short videos explaining how the internet is changing NPD (new product development).

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David Driscoll

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Sounds quite good the gap between the two has vanished. unfortunately didn't see FYI, another blogging equation to work with. Closed Controlling Random Open Selective Supportive. Doesn't sound that bad. Everybody must be able to connect with at least one of the above, if not a good platform to dive from. It's good you know, when blogging or networking even brain storming at any level a single valued tag can create an opening for chit chat. Although many of us beleive we are guru, experts, specialists, exceptional at our field simplicity will always win the day. Therefore a body of language must be used all the time for people to make that first connection. A big thank you must go out to the generations before us that have opened colossal oppotunities for one and all to be involved. Therefore join forces and escalate. 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3, 3 becomes 4 and so on.

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David Driscoll

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Sorry for the dealy been quoting some work. If you mix CSC with ORS it has nothing to do with crross. Which is kind of funny. Oops. My point is CCROSS is the two subjects combined. Like the blog mentions CSC and ORS will need to be as one.

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David Driscoll

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If we dwell to much on CSC or ORS then the next form of thinking will be on us. If you combine the two making CRROSS. The new generation of business types will come through and be able to communicate with the generations 40 years ahead of them. This is what ORS CSC is all about, both have to meet to create the language for all of us to form and build business relationships. Lehman terms for us all, the quicker we learn both the better. If we don't adapt then we stand still.

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Wouter Havinga

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some info on CSC

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/01/02/the-seven-habits-of-spectacularly-unsuccessful-executives/ The Seven Habits of Spectacularly Unsuccessful Executives

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Victoria Bullis

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..Have been mulling over for a couple of weeks how to respond to this blog---which I have loved and wanted to respond to. I just watched the video for the 3rd time---in the middle of it, what to say hit me like a thunderbolt (and I am not exaggerating this one iota...): Only a true master/master-in-the-making would be able to entirely think in ORS terms, and manage his/her business from that sort of a standpoint. Victoria

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Simon Dixon

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Look forward to seeing this come to market and if it makes the entrepreneurs, managers and leader more open, random and supportive then that is great service to us all. Good luck Thomas.

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John Smith

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Admin thanks. I'd be around but is there any way to stop the emails about every comment ? chandler property management

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Wouter Havinga

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Lucifer (ORS) - Ahriman (CSC)

Rudolf Steiner aroused my curiosity about his assertion the we all are temped by influences from Luciferic and Ahriman. These influences, I think, are described in the spectrum ORS to CSC, which Thomas is presenting in this blog. Luciferic tendencies such as passion, vision, warmth, creative, art, life coaching, getting carried away, excitement, bringing about change, variety (ORS?). On the opposite side Ahrimanic tendencies being; dull, dry, cold, intellectual, philistine, ridicule, scoff, jeer, scornful, mechanistic, calculated, nationalistic, making copies, natural science, illusion, statues, regulation (CSC?) One can easily read these tendencies in any blog. I believe that the issue is to find the middle ground in any situation. Therefore it's not dependent on the person's character but how you act should be directed by what the situation you find yourself in, calls for.

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Matt Hodkinson

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Hi TP, Sounds interesting, and I've certainly got a lot of time for Darren. I've taken his profiling tests before, and having also completed the IMA and Wealth Dynamics questionnaires, I wonder how you see this standing apart? Why is it important (if at all, for me, as I've not "worked with Boards of Directors for long periods")? What actionable insight will I have acquired, on completion? I think these will be recurring questions. People are a lot more discerning about what they spend their time on, since we now live in a world where we're subject to a social network launch every 12 hours or less. "One more thing to worry about" and "So what?" will be the staple responses of 2012, I reckon.

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Mona Youssef

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Hello again Thomas, You have mentioned that if anyone has experience worked on a board of director to contact you. I have worked, as a vise president, on a board of directors for four years and made significant changes. If you wish to know more, for some reason, where I can assist you somehow, please contact me through website www.mona-gallery.com unless you know already my e-mail address! I am now, being closed (CS)!

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Mona Youssef

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Hello Thomas, Penny Lucas and all. Thank you Thomas for inviting me to be part of this very interesting study. I am very impressed by the insightful perspective you've reached to CSC and ORS with which I agree. Thanks also to dear Lucas as he has added another dimension to it. From experience, networking over the years, I have met people who were CSC and learned how to be ORS. Some individuals have gone all the way, built their confidence, improved their communications skills and overcome their shyness. Others have taken advantages of their contacts and pursued their fraud more professionally and on an international scales. Having said that, one must have to be careful from being so open, rather be closed somehow and be selective. While network still requires openness, honesty as to who we are and what we are looking for. Being selective of our contacts as well supportive to those who need such support, is essential ingredients of network. Best to you all and Happy Holidays Mona

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Mark Yama Tampuri

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Hello Thomas, Thanks for sharing his insightful knowledge and experience with us. Happy festive season to all.

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Muchina Thuo

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Enjoy your holidays everyone.. 2012 is a year of building the bridges across the board and progress. Thanks everyone.

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Duncan Gledhill

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Thomas, This makes perfect sense of situations in the past where I have incorrectly anticipated a managers reaction to something, adoption of Google+ being a perfect example or Facebook as a business tool not just a free consumer platform. I would dearly love to understand more about how to get this right next time so I know if and when to push. Lets chat Duncan Gledhill

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ed percival

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Thomas, I love that you are putting your thinking to a test and exploring ways of exploring. Put me down to fetch and carry water and occasional magic tasks Happy Christmas Ed

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Julia McDaid

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You mentioned this briefly on Tuesday, and it has taken me until now to read the blog. Clearly you have generated a lot of interest and discussion already, so this will not be news in this community when you launch it. I am not at all surprised to hear that whether someone is ORS or CSC is more to do with their mindset and attitude than their role. Yes I think culture in the work arena may influence to some extent, but the underlying person is who they are, though again some are more easily affected by culture. Being fascinated by people I am of course interested to see where this goes, and fascinated by how many have already chosen to define themselves in the comments! I am holding back on that one. ;-) I have in the past worked with Boards of up to medium sized companies, mainly private sector, one semi public (privatised but not let loose!), and have worked as an employee in corporate so fully get the thinking there. (is "thinking" the right word??)

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Colin Green

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I've sat here thinking about this for 10 minutes now after reading all the posts. I know this might sound crazy, but I believe I float amongst all six categories below from minute to minute during my personal & work life. Open versus Closed Random versus Selective Supportive versus Controlling Obviously I can't speak for all humankind, but I believe there would be some people who are boxed into certain styles, others that were floaters when required and others again trying to potentially be what they are not. What mask we wear for each scenario we are in is no doubt a different situation for all. For some, I would say it isn't a different mask, it is purely the one they wear "or are" all the time. To be able to blend from one to the other when required for each circumstance I believe is a gift to be fortunate to have. I have found this blog intriguing. Someone made mention above to certain IMA classifications and what they believed a High Red could or couldn't be. I am a High Red. In saying that, maybe that is what I am at my true core. Maybe it is not who I am 24 hours a day, but who I am within my true self. Again, I could think about this all evening. Thomas, thank you for including me on your email. I hope everyone has a safe and wonderful Christmas, and best wishes for 2012. Regards, A new Ecademy member Colin Green.

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Robert Oosthout

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Thomas, What is more interesting is to share what has made that we are ORS in order to encourage others to become ORS as well. Actually what we are doing here on Ecademy, or on other social and business media sites is sharing and sharing our resources with eachother. So we could say most of us are already ORS. The question is how can we share more? What kind of (business)communicationmodel is needed to forward this conversation? One more thing on risk. Life is taking risks. Sometimes we fall and we recover and go on. Someone said: "It is not the circumstances that determine your life, it is the meaning you give to them". I have chosen to always choose for an empowering interpretation, or context. It has given me everything, my life and it will go on giving me what I am up to. For instance, I am now in the conversation of becoming a member of EU parliament in 2014. I don't know if I will get there and I am walking that path and discovering all kind of new things. When I was asked why should we choose you, I said one thing:"If you pick me, you will get abundance".

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Robert Oosthout

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Thomas, I like to take the test and it seems you miss the point I made. People never are ORS or CSC, because they are "a work of art constantly under construction". It can also be that in some areas of life we are ORS and in others we are not. For instance in my work as a lawyer I cannot be open all the time, because it would harm my clients interests. In my work as a politician it is the same. ORS is an attitude that comes from perceiving life as being abundant. I my experience people that are behaving CSC often are experiencing life as being:"not enough for everybody". That way they create their own experience of lack, because they have trained themselves that way. They are not able to see it the other way. To develop from CSC to ORS takes time and a deliberate decision to be ORS no matter what. In order to do so we need to disrupt ourselves from our old behaviour and experience. Not many people do that because it means you have to come out of your comfort zone.

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soni rastogi

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Greetings from AmandusTechnologies! on such a wonderful writeup....

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Robert Oosthout

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Thomas, Being ORS or CSC, as everything else in life, is a decision, a commitment so to speak. Yes, at some point in time we could be closed, selective and controlled, and we have a choice. So to me there is no such thing as people are CSC or ORS, because that means we perceive the world as a given and to me we create life and the world ourselves everyday. I think it has something to do with accepting we are responsible, cause in the matter, always.

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Ray Han

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open, I agree; random? no. from random to selective to focus; supportive? half true.

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Malgorzata Krasinska

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Michael Hargreaves

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Hi Thomas, one of the things that I was thinking is that your study should take into account the differences between "thought" leadership and managerial and entrepreneurial leadership. I am sure that not all entrepreneurs or managers are thought leaders - and many may be thought followers. Moreover, as leaders are in the minority, you may want to distinguish leading behaviour from following (laggard) behaviour too. Cheers, Michael

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John Mereness

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I tend to like this response of Euan. I have been in the CRC traditional firm model and I have been in the ORC model (actually a ORC division within a CRC - and we/I achieved the needed results, though being a small island in a large sea has disadvantages). Hi Thomas Good post! In my opinion, is important to remember though that things can never be 100% yin or 100% yang. There will always be a mixture of both and in this case, the secret is understanding both models and knowing how much of one to adopt over the other at any one time. This is specific to each situation and will contstantly be changing. The hard part is using the models at the right time and in the right amount and not letting one compomise the other. Best wishes Euan

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John Mereness

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So, is anyone commenting from Cincinnati, Ohio, USA, and in the process of growing or refining a culture ?

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Michael Hargreaves

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Hi Thomas, your observations are very interesting and raise more questions in respect of what you are trying to measure. My first question concerns entrepreneurs, managers, leaders. Are leaders distinct from entrepreneurs and managers or are entrepreneurs and managers subgroups of leaders? My second and third questions concerns Open Random Supportive and Closed Random Supportive. Have you developed profiles based upon "observed" behaviours? And can these behaviours be distinguished from people with Open Non-Random Supportive, Open Non-Random Non Supportive, and Open Random Non-Supportive groups? Once you know what you are measuring (more than ORC and CRC) it would be interesting to know whether behviours are influenced by culture, education, and age. Cheers, Michael Hargreaves

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Lucy Puniwai

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I am ready to participate and would like the results to be explained in "laymen's terms. With the pwoer of the Internet, I need to know I am participating in forums that produce a ROI for all my time and efforts. As a Realtor, determining "target audience" is essential. If you believe I am a prospect for your endeavor, I am ready, willing and able to participate.

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devena angel

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Thank you for your information. It is great to read your article and about your research there is a plenty of information in your article. I am running a small business i.e SVRTECHNOLOGIES after reading your article I learned a lot. Thanks once again.

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Abhijeet Patil

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Great Blog Thomas.

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David Driscoll

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Obstacles, change. Today you have simple effective business types that see business as a way of paying the bills. It's more fun. You need to get involved with the people that have money to spend, when you do, they'll spend money on you. If you haven't any funds you can't buy, if you haven't any skills you can't create sales. If you don't know any body that can do the job you'll spend it on something else. Then look for the person you need to do the job or forget all about it. That person has missed out. If you can get involved with all business professionals then your options are greater. People know what you do and therefore work becomes plentyful because you've got in there and can provide the service that they want. You need IT go to IT, you need shipping go to shipping. you need a bunch of flowers go to a florist. If you know these people you don't need to go anywhere you can move on to the next task. The more people you meet and get to know this is also a skill the easier business becomes. A CEO can meet a pest expert the pest expert gets rid of the pests and the CEO does his job. Many a time i've wondered what a CEO does, i've met a CEO and i still wonder what they do. However, i joined his latest adventure because it was sold with great simplicity. Open, Random, Supportive.

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kevin anchi

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America is now on the cusp of becoming a state that does exactly such things — things exactly like the things done by 20th-century horror shows such as National Socialist Germany or Stalin's USSR. Literally. Not "this is where it might lead" or "the tendency is similar." Exactly, literally, the same thing. The only difference is that it awaits being done on a mass scale. But the power to do it openly — brazenly — has been asserted. free credit score

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Fiona Brownsell

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Hi Thomas A bit blown away by all the erudite comments here. If we get the Cut Loose CIC off the ground next year, as we hope, then I believe we'd benefit a lot as a new managment team and board from your ideas. So pencil us in please. Fiona

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Martin Leeney

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Great video but is it any wonder that the two thought reference points are different? No not at all and look at where CSC has got the world of commerce? CSC ultimately leads to failure because it is closed, secretive and cold with profit being the only driver. Now many will argue over if profit is the only driver in an institution. The institution will argue it isn't however it is and always will be. The two theories are by their very nature opposing and is it possible that the institutional ways of the past won't be able to survive the future. I think not. Are institutions really changing? Maybe but why are they changing and will they attempt to get a grip on ORS with a view to be controlling within it. Of course they will that's the nature of the beast. It is really difficult to convince institutions that ORS should be embraced because it goes against everything they believe in. In fact it's polar opposite. Should you try? Absolutely.

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Adrian Traher

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Socialism, or its extreme form Communism, is an excellent model for how to run a society. "Each according to their needs and each according to their ability" Unfortunately this system has to be managed by human beings with all their innate weaknesses and avarice. The thrust here is that ORS is good and CSC is bad. In my opinion the personification of the characteristics is fundamental to the mutual success of any business collaboration. If you examine the increase in business generation between Blackstars who meet regularly and the random contact request from some unknown it is obvious. Separate but related; "Thomas's request to comment on a Blog" is a device that can only be used on an occasional basis. Adrian Traher

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gerald antal gamauf

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i'd love to test my personality as well - via questionnaire. (where) do i get it?

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Kate Baker

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Very interesting post. I certainly believe CRS is the preferable and most long-term effective way to be in life and business but, more than that, CRS people are the type of people with whom I want to interact. I do think that, as with any behavioural pigeon-holing theory, people have an overall inclination to be CRS or CSC but move up and down within the scale between two points depending upon circumstance and experience. I look forward to seeing the questionnaire (and later results)... and can I fill one in please?! Merry Christmas! Kate Baker virtualgo2 ltd http://virtualgo2.com

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Euan Stewart

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Hi Thomas Good post! In my opoinion, is important to remember though that things can never be 100% yin or 100% yang. There will always be a mixture of both and in this case, the secret is understanding both models and knowing how much of one to adopt over the other at any one time. This is specific to each situation and will contstantly be changing. The hard part is using the models at the right time and in the right amount and not letting one compomise the other. Best wishes Euan

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Bob Barker

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Thomas, Assume you are also adding in the firms/the individuals attitude to People - how much do they value them, versus see them as pawns to make them money. Their Passion for the business they are in, again as opposed to just got into it to make money and their Purpose - is what they do of mutual value exchange for the greater good, into your formula. The IMA thing comes in as well, how can a high red ever be ORS?. Bob

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Agnes Katushabe

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Dear Thomas thanks for sharing that. I think I'm both ORS and CSC but adjusting More to ORS (Not deliberately though). Waiting for the questionnaire. Merry Christmas.

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Leon Benjamin

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We Need Antibodies

That's what we should be looking for, antibodies; some peaceful idea that binds us.... Read the whole thing

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Barney Douglas

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Having had experience of a supposedly ORS organisation from the blunt end as a highly experienced sales consultant dumped on the pretext of a minor misdemeanour (which was how they got rid of an entire department), I'd be intrigued to know if it is possible to add a lie detector to the model. Of course, that is almost impossible. I'm not saying it can't be done, but if people knew it was there would they vary their responses to cover their two-faced-ness. Oh, the joys of being a one-man business. I get up, I take photographs for clients or for speculative sale, I walk the dogs, I relax, I earn a crust. I'm happy. Barney - http://www.bd-shop.co.uk

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Leon Benjamin

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What we need is antibodies

That's what we should be looking for, antibodies; some peaceful idea that binds us. Because we can all agree that this King of the Mountain shit (CSC) has got to go; a lucky few get to spend a bit of time on top, but everybody spends most of their existence getting pissed on from a great height. So why do we continue doing it?

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anna Collins

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This is one great way of explaining technological advancement today and how the business industry cope with it. It's one way of understanding how people react to internet and stuff like financial (insurance quotes), entertainment, business, and opportunities. Great job Thomas!

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Ken Brody

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I'd like to add a less intellectual response as well as the one above. I believe I run a very ORS-type of organization. I've never been comfortable with the circumscribed thinking of CSC organizations. They make me feel confined, boxed in. Nevertheless, open, really random organizations may not be stable. I am concerned that a collection of ORS types can fall apart, or even fall together, in a couple of unpleasant ways. One obvious way, of course, is chaos. Ecademy maintains rules to prevent that sort of outcome, and so does my company. It could fall together as collectivism. This is an anthill of interchangeable critters who have given up real life for the greater good, or whatever some ant queen decides is the greater good. Personally, I treasure diversity. An ORS organization tends to take on a life of its own and a group personality. Ecademy tends to be verbally fluent, tolerant, with a tart British flavor to this American. Other sites are heavy on pictures, or culturally "cool" topics, or slang, hip-hop language in short sound bites. I will bet that ORS organization are more creative, better to work in, very hard to recruit for, and less likely to do repetitive tasks. I can't imagine an ORS military or an ORS orchestra. An ORS jazz ensemble or an ORS code-breaking group, yes.

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Arthur Partridge

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Hi Thomas This is not me. I am not a regular worker with Boards however, I don't think I would be surprised to find CSC Boards. Some industries can't do right for doing right e.g Tobacco, where there is constant litigation or in the booze industry and risks may have to be managed through controls because of the high risk involved. I would have also thought it reasonable in some industries for Boards to be OSS. Given that ORS is not the exact opposite of CSC, what other measures are there and where do they show up? Are the results skewed by the industry or geographical location of the boards (Political, Cultural influences permitting)? If there are influences that are external to the Boards which determine their online behaviour, then I guess there are ratios that would be applied to the balance of ORS:CSC. It could be that a board can only achieve a maximum Openess score of 75% due to external constraints. I don't know what is in the model but I don't think you can have pure types. The model has to generalise. How specific would you want the model to be? So for me, I would like to know what level of interference does the model take into account and how could I measure it before I would begin to influence change. AyPee

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Ken Brody

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If I remember correctly, the Standard Model had four quark flavors: truth, beauty, strangeness and charm. Lucas, how could you forget truth and beauty in this context? My current reading list includes a book on Symmetry and mathematical topology. Beauty is the mathematicians guiding light. The interesting observation is that a mathematical object can be described as a set of connected nodes, as a list of symmetries, as a member of a symmetry group, or as an instance of a set of "atomic" symmetries. Each view is correct, but they all complement each other. Sometimes it's easier to use one view to make a calculation, while the same calculation is impossible in another view. Assume, for the moment, that personality is defined as a set of tendencies towards action given a set of circumstances. The spectrum of actions and the choices of circumstances that the test includes will determine the aspect of personality revealed. Are the elements orthogonal, so that they do not overlap? Is the strength of the connection in each pair of circumstance and action equal so the model is also symmetrical? Then by the aesthetics of topology you have an elegant solution, as opposed to a messy and arbitrary collage. If you have an elegant solution, you have the further task of mapping it onto known science. Does it correlate well with any other description of personality? Is there a mapping to other well-defined traits? Sorry if this is a bit academic. The kind of thing that you are doing is quite useful if it is done well, and is just anther piece of pop psychology otherwise. I do like the idea.

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Garry Pickles

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I have only been a member on academy for a few weeks now and the difference in the mentality of people I speak to is so refreshing. People are open for discussion and offer help and advice which is so refreshing and a relief for me . Nice people do exist in the business world :-) Not just sceptical and ultra competitive people. A big bonus is people already know the power of social media on academy. You try telling a company in Ramsbottom they should be on Facebook and they look back at you like you have just run over their cat .

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George G

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This is a well studied article. The online strategies depending on the type of people you're interacting is the key to success.

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Mei Lan (Agnes) Hsiao

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Dear Thomas, Thanks for sharing and giving us a chance to rethink leadership development vs. reality. In any kind of leadership workshop or coaching, no question all participants would have a great learning experience about the importance of being ORS. A leader can not function without people and environment, but how many are able to transfer the learning in their reality afterwards? How many companies really reward people by their people skills when they probably face the reality in business management practice - It does not matter white of black cat, only one who catch mice is good cat? How many years we have heard about the importance of "Human Resource"? How many companies are really seeing their people as resource when the salary is on the cost on the financial report? We are facing potential serious economic crisis, companies likely will tighten their budget and have more higher demands for 'performance achievement'. How to minimize fear by reasserting self worth and comfort is a critical challenge for people at different level.

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Alla Sobirova

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http://blog.allasobirova.com/2011/12/19/hi-everyone-today-we-are-going-to-practice-a-very-easy-sound-for-english-speaking-people/

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Joan Maxymuik

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Thanks for the clarification and I agree entirely. The protocol for big business is very regimented and requires wearing two hats, the one you have to wear in a business environment and the one you wear at home and among friends. Networking is something we have been programmed to accept from the time we shared our first experience with someone. Networking allow us to be ourselves once again and reach out to others. Its a giving environment we want to surround ourselves with, that will help others and not an environment where we are forcing others to bend to our will.

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Paul Kyriazi

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An interesting video on net working thinking vs institutional thinking. Thanks for the information. Paul

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Nahum Correa Ruvalcaba

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Thomas, thanks for sharing. I rode your article, I thought about your article, and then I noticed time has changed, and obviously, platforms changed too. Then "Reality" itself, does not just seems affected by what happens within it. But, with what happens inside "Virtual Reality" too. And I'm just referring to the technologically stuff. Then from the human point of view.To talk about the effect of this new kind of meta communication: work and networking takes new dimensions, because a paradigm has been surpassed, and logically, the game has evolved. I'm really happy, just to set an example, about sites like Eacademy. Because they are a real example of: 1.- Being Open not Closed. 2.- Being Random not Selective. 3.- Being Supportive not Controlling. I wish you success in your Endeavor. And as a researcher, I wish you can focus on the metrics and find the methodologies that will guide you in your way to certify your hypothesis related to your ELMORS Risk Model.

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John Mereness

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We are all probably replying to this as we are all the .001 % that believe in "Network Thinking" and have actually been in environments that attempt such (or at least allow a slight glimmer of such to show through on occasion). What I have found is that it is "magic" that allows me incredible success over others (ie. the clients both internal and external flock to me), though the double edged sword not many people have "seen the light." Thomas - I think you have just taken the first steps down the yellow brick road (quite an adventure as we all know from reading the books and watching the film). By the way, on LinkedIn, I have been following an author by the name of Steve Denning (very interesting reading) who preaches a concept he calls "Radical Management" - which perhaps is not all that radical as I am use to Agile, Scrum, Skunkworks, and other project management concepts that lend themselves very well to IT and Technology.

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Philip Cohen

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"Watch this blog": UNchecked.

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Dorina Grossu

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Dear Thomas, Civilizations existed before corporations therefore what we have been experiencing today is a result of corporations that have grown to unhealthy sizes. With so many banks, insurance companies including Governments that had failed, we will have to re-root and redefine human beings role on Earth. What appears to be random is what we observe as spontaneous manifestation rather than the essence of beings. Happy Holidays to all members, Dorina

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Don Brake

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I have no idea what this is, and therefore have no opinion one way or the other.

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David Simpson

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To me, total ORS is not a natural state of mind for most people but is something that is learned (or not) over time, either through direct experience & therefore emulation or more likely by visionaries who can help you evolve your thinking. I also think that is a more "feminine" way of thinking that many men initialy find quite alien because it's not adversarial but nevertheless competitive. Does this resonate with anyone or have I really lost it this time? David Simpson

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Pratyush Agarwal

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Hello Everyone, I have remained entirely open minded and very much down to earth, this has been remarkable to me to bring maturity level as human being at global level.But I had to face a lot of problems as we need two hand to clip means the other people must also be on same ground.After trying I concluded that it is more dependent on society and culture so we should have flexibility in this regard be open to developed and well matured society else be selective till you convert all the people to open though it may take time or may very slow paced but we have no other options.Being non developed and poor brings few -ve traits in humen like extreme jealousy, greed and some different but still falls in ego category or it may bring more complex issues like mix of jealousness + greed + ego etc. Please let me know your thoughts . Merry Christmas and very prosperous new year. Best Wishes Pratyush

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John Smith

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You have drawn a very nice picture of Social Media strategies here and this really is a good post. I would like to keep reading more and more from you. Thanks John Smith NC property management companies

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Derek Watkins

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I imagine that many of us can relate to this especially for those of us that have led a corporate life at some stage. Our makeup will also define how well we adapt to ORS and how long it will really take us. It would be interesting to gauge how far down that path we really are?

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Tony Waithe

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Yes Thomas, 10 long years eh (and I wouldn't describe you as a slow mover & shaker) in fact quite the opposite ... Its not going to be so easy to become an ORS for some of the old school crowd, especially as the British in particular are still known around the world as quite well reserved and changing isn't something Brits like to rush into without serious consideration (isn't this why we are still holding onto the pound sterling whilst the rest of Europe jumped to the single Euro currency). England, for so many years has been a very smooth operator (she waits for others to make their move first). However, the new generation of movers & shakers are a different thinking people (Penny mentioned it in one of her videos when she spoke about turning maslow's theory on its head) she is absolutely right. No matter what, the world is slowly waking up to a brand new reality ... Its not going to be so easy for many to open up and share their souls to "tom, dick or harry". but one thing for sure, the Brits never get left behind when the new trends begin to kick into place. Of course there needs to be balance with the old school tradition meets modern day movement. The armchair generals are a stubborn bunch and still need to feel that they are in control (CSC) but I never underestimate the elders of our society (they still have much we can learn from). But the blatant fact is that the digital age is here and its here to stay & its going to get BIGGER.

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Philip Cohen

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Closed, Selective, Controlling. Now, that describes to a tee the "Pain from Bain", John Donahoe, who is at the tiller of the rusting old hulk "eBay". The last time the headless turkey Donahoe was seen in public he was waving his smart phone and babbling incoherently about mobile sales and UFO sightings over San Jose. Possibly, Donahoe could learn something from participating in this program. PayPal claims PayPal Is Not a Payments Processor! http://forums.auctionbytes.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=24148 eBay / PayPal / Donahoe: Dead Men Walking.

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Adem Kazaz

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Hi. Great article. ORS and CSC approach is so deep. It is genius. Adem

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Rajesh Bajracharya

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Hi Thomas Just want to limit myself to "thanks" for including me on your mailing list and the practical ORS i'm experience going through the comments...definitely I'm for ORS despite all the cons predicted as I'm still on experimental stage of the concept...but I'm sure you're playing with "10 years time" as to bring about the rush to it to make it shorter. Can't help confess that I'm so reminded of the Social Role Valorization Theory (Wolf Wolfensberger) which has convincingly influenced my perspective towards (social) change since last few years. Don't really know how to differentiate your sharing vs comments i liked here, specially, the changing of Board Engine to Servicing Fuel for community ahead but i find connection to SRV and your proposed CSC to ORS transition. I'm with you, all the best.

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Jimmy Hickey

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Need Help With CSD

I was told someone in this blog might be able to help, so here goes... I am a single father of four children, and i have never had any open cases by CSD (childrens services) in Oregon, but recently they got involved in my family because of some false reports made on us, by my ex wifes cousin. This woman has a history of making false reports and i believe she is pschizoprenic, and has a long family history of mental illness. CSD came into our lives several weeks ago, and since then, has lied to us, family members, made threats and even upset social workers in california. Now they have opened a case on us, and forced my fiance to leave our home, because of a 12 year old california case where her and her children were abused by her exhusband who is now in prison for it. CSD insists she did wrong doing but California states otherwise. They state she done NO wrong doing, and i even have proof of that. She is the best mother figure my kids have ever had and they love and miss her dearly. They have us under a very strict set of rules, which does not allow me to work or hardly even pay my bills. They are not helping us in anyway, nor does my court appointed attorney seem to be helping. The worker in California is telling us to subpena him to court and he will testify that this oregon worker has falsified information to support his investigation because no other reason exsists to continue his investigation. Please help us, we are being railroaded by the system, and i dont know what to do. My lights might get turned out and i fear csd is going to take my kids if i even so much as try to defend myself. They have already told me that in so many words. Please help. This is destroying our family and our Christmas together. Now they are passing the buck onto a new case worker instead of investigative worker because they are satisfied with the false information that they have gathered against me, and are moving onto a service plan, and this guy seems just as crooked as the last. From what i understand, i should not agree to it at all. Please contact me for more information on this case. God Bless

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Prof. Dr. Sc. GUY VAN ELSACKER

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Great SCIENCE IS NOT BUILD UP BY MUTUAL CONFIRMATION BUT BY CONTRADICTION Guy Van Elsacker Correct effectuated research Perception > Analyzing > Randomize and asking for opinions in order to make corrections Despite the fact that I'm a layman in this field I understand now - after 50 year s- why I as an ORS person had so many conflicts with the CSC people where I had to deal with. (Iinstitutes Regulators) Thank you Thomas Guy

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Anne Hellinger

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Hi watched the video for which I am grateful... my hubby worked for CSC for many years so was pleased to see the TLA was something different... I passionately believe social media is driving us much more to ORS, just hope i'm right keep up the good work anne @serendipitygdds (twitter)

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adip dutta

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Information is free, guidance will convert these information into knowledge,there is no way any individual/person can be closed, you can change a fee for the guidance.In the energy sector unfortunately ignorance is dominant in energy sector as it requires multi-technologies.Protection of IPs is required -question is how we still ca be open with protection.

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Phil Shepherd

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A very interesting way to go Thomas :) And you've picked a very good partner indeed. All my very best for the New Year, Phil

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Simon Allen

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Your words bring clarity and form to what lies ahead. Those that heed will survive and thrive, those that don't won't!

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Richard J Francis

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Darwin and Einstein are our sleeping board members

Darwin stated it was not the fastest or the fittest that survived throughout evolution - but those most able to adapt to their surroundings. In his own case - it was over 20 years before he dared publish his infamous 200+ year old book - his own process in action. Einstein stated you cannot solve problems by remaining at the level of thinking you were at when you created them. How much violation of that principle do we see in action right now? Thomas - I would not put limits on it taking 10 years to transfer between one thinking state and another. For some individuals and some organisations - it will be much quicker. For others - much slower (if ever). You also have to maybe accept a blurring of the boundaries between O.R.S and C.S.C. Having worked with Doug Holman - C.H.I.R.P.S (a system where any potential human-induced dangers to aircraft flight safety can be made in confidence) is actually both O.R.S and C.S.C in action when you think about it. The principle you outlined of absorption is much better. It's evolutionary not revolutionary. I also think this is not an organisational process either - it's individual - which is what makes it an exciting shift. Other external forces to companies are also accelerating this change. I increasingly hear people refer to 'the shift in democracy away from 99% to 1%'? Whilst this is certainly not an overnight phenomena - there may well be (in true Malcolm Gladwell style) 'tipping points' which will start to address that balance back to a level that civilised societies feel comfortable with again. If they don't - the consequences may well be dire - and I think the educated sophisticated boards in companies know this. If they aren't actively fixing this issue - then they at least need to step-up the activity that implies they are (though obviously - we wish for their sakes and ours - it's the former). As a result of both significant ORS and CSC exposure in my working life - I'm starting to ask in 21st Century contexts: 1) What is a board? 2) What is a company? 3) Even - to some degree - what is a country? In the context of where western societies may be headed - much of the above is up for massive reform way beyond our current thinking and labeling. As regards boards - the stale imagery of an oval table with 12 leather chairs around it is certainly one I'm keen to put in the blender. I'm also keen to put in with it - the (at times) 'cosy familarity / animosity paradigm' amongst board members, together with paternalistic 'know-all' ness and start to close the enormous wealth, knowledge & power gaps between shareholder communities and community as a whole - a balance that has got - frankly - utterly out of whack in the last 3 decades and is anything but healthy for eventual overall citizenship. A board should stop considering itself the engine - and more the oil that flows around it. If the oil is of insufficient calibre - or there isn't enough of it to reach all the parts - the engine will eventually seize. Also - oil needs changing - it's get sludgy and exhausted. Learn to rejuvenate and recycle the oil - put it back in. Coming back to O.R.S. Is it risky? Like anything else - there is informed risk and uninformed risk. The former is preferable over the latter - but both probably need to be faced. Best to look out for the best and worst cases of changing behaviour before you do it - and then finding yourself somewhere on that line. The key with O.R.S is not to let it become mutilated by tokenism. Once you have done that - you've trivialised and destroyed it. Openness, Randomness and Supportiveness are actually very very hard to achieve if they are done properly. Especially true when the outcome of that O.R.S process may well your temporary (or permanent) demotion, displacement or even risk of ridicule. O.R.S won't work for those with a 'little tin god' mindset. Our guides may no longer just be the successful entrepreneur - the "Sugar' figurehead - but the amazing oils that allow the sugars to cruise on the highway of success without breakdown.

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Cheryl Thornton

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Interesting and informative ;-)

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Kurt Kozin

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I do support Stuart's opinion. Kurt Infinity Intellectuals Inc

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Kurt Kozin

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Mr. Thomas, A great blog. I would really like to hear more on this. I have always been ORS, as this makes sense to me and I believe in handing a help to the needy.

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Stuart Chalmers

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Admirable in thought but somewhat utopian! Personally I would love things to be ORS but whilst you may be able to improve the way some people think (and this is a really tall order in itself) I unfortunately don't think ORS is realistically achievable. To make this work we have to assume trust which we clearly cannot do. Corporates are probably the last people you can trust as the prime objective of most of these is to get bigger, dominate, increase profits etc. in any way they think they can get away with and there is much evidence to support this. It is human nature combined with environment. Given the best environment possible you cannot guarantee the honesty of any particular individual. The usual basic arguments apply and I have to agree with Mick and Georgina on this one. All the same, a good vehicle for improvement and a nice idea, I am with you in principle! Negative or realistic, how am I doing? Stuart

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Nayanika Jayaram

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Very Interesting Post. Keep up the good work!!! Greetings to you, family for the Season.

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Prem Gyani

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I am a strong believer in ORS and it has paid me dividends. The thing is that it needs working.If it's going to help put beans on your toast, it's actually a hell of a lot more work than CSC. Based on that and commitments that I have, I have fallen in and out of love with it over the years I have been with Ecademy, Facebook, Linkedin, Twitter, Google+ and the like.. At the moment, I'm in love with it. Probably because I am taking my career in yet another direction and I need to learn from all those other ORSs out there. Having done this before, I am very hopeful on the outcome. Eventually I will find the right information from the right person to get me to the right outcome. Yes, I'm interested in what you are doing. Prem

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Julie Armitage

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Well Thomas, I don't think we have 10 years! Things are moving so fast. It is important that people learn to care on a bigger scale. Not just about share holders..and profits...but about the bigger picture. Be that in the Board room or the social network. TImes are changing very fast. Julie Armitage

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Marija Barisin

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Now that is an interesting notion especially for a scholar of organizational behavior such as myself. I would like to go and further research attitudes that prompt the given behavior.

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Alper Durmus

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Dear Thomas, This is something simply "new". At this point, I am reminded of "BUILT TO LAST" one of which I'm currently reading (Collins, J. and Porras, J. I., ISBN 0-88730-671-3). A fresh breath of air. Wishing you all the best for the Christmas and also a great 2012. Humbly and kindly, Alper

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Dr Peter van de Waal-Palms IV, PhD

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By 2006, gross interest payments on the national debt were running $406 billion per year. That consumed 17% of all federal revenue. It now represents the governments largest single expense; greater than defense; larger than the combined cost of the departments of Agriculture, Education, Energy, Housing, and Urban Development, Interior, Justice, Labor, State, Transportation and Veteran' affairs These charges are not paid by the government; they are paid by you. You provide the money through taxes and inflation. The cost currently is about $5,000 for each family of four. All families pay through inflation but not all pay taxes. The cost of each taxpaying family therefore is higher. On average over $5,000 is extracted from your family each year, not to provide government services or even to pay off previous debt. Nothing is produced by it, not even roads or government buildings. No welfare or medical benefits come out of it. No salaries are paid by it. The nation's standard of living is not raised by it. It does nothing but pay interest. Furthermore the interest is compounded, which means, even if the government were to completely halt its deficit spending, the total debt would continue to grow as a result of interest on that portion which already exists. In 2006 interest on the national debt was already consuming 39% of all the revenue collected by personal income taxes. Amazing, isn't it? Without interest on the national debt we could save enough to cut our personal income taxes by a third and we could reduce corporate taxes as well. Unfortunately, under present policies and programs, that is not going to happen, because Congress does not live within its income. Many expenses are paid, not from taxes, but from selling government bonds and going deeper into debt each year. So, even if we could save enough to slash personal income taxes, it would not be enough. The government would still go into the red to keep its present life style. However if a reduction in the size and scope of the bureaucracy were accomplished at the same time, personal and corporate income taxes could be eliminated and the government would have an annual surplus. By 2008, outlays of the federal government were one-fourth of the nation's economy. More people now work for government than for all manufacturing companies in the private sector. There are more bank regulators than bankers, more farm-bureau workers than farmers, more welfare administrators than recipients. More citizens receive government checks than those who pay income taxes. By 2010 the average federal worker was earning 60% more than the average worker in the private sector. By 1992 more than half of all federal outlays went for entitlements Normally with contracts for future obligations like private insurance company pension plans, annuities, life insurance, the issuer is required by law to accumulate money into a fund to make sure that there will be enough available to make the payments when future payments become due. The federal government does not does not abide by those laws. The funds exist on paper only. The money that comes in for future obligations is immediately spent and replaced by government IOU. So as those future payments become due, all the money must come from revenue being collected at that time. 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PaTrisha-Anne Todd

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ORS is the YES in business and Thomas I appreciate you sharing your research and wisdom, plenty to think about especially from a feminine point of view, the ORS is authentic and productive in an open, random and supportive way, thanks PaTrisha-Anne Todd 'The Lady Entrepreneur'

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Roger Cummiskey

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This is all too rich for me. I´m retired. Have a nice Christmas and best wishes for 2012. Slan Roger

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Demos Flouri

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I think - I do - and so on

Likewise mr Mick! I think I have always been ORS, probably why this network suits me to the ground.

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Jackie Northedge

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I think I have always leant towards being ORS through out my life and during my career. I can definitely say I have lost opportunities because of it, but I would not have it any other way. It makes sense to me and If I can help others to see the light, then it's been worthwhile. Jackie

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Robert Hill

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I've never really had first hand experienced of "institutional thinking" cultures and I'm not sure if I have fully understood your meaning of CSC "closed, selective, control ". I'm one of the masses who look in from the outside with dismay at some of these government organisations, I want them to change with the times but many of them are locked in the 19th & 20th century. As for businesses at boardroom level many companies no longer exist or will soon expire whilst those that change with the times will hopefully flourish. As for being ORS "open, random, supportive" I understand the need in a networking environment whether it is a virtual or a real environment of collective individuals. I will take a look at "yourbusinesschannel.com" and see what is it all about. Regards, Rob

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Lionel Basque

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In any things you do you should be open, random and supportive in their everyday life both at home and at work. Lionel

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Alf Andreassen

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Wish you good luck with your model. A bit out of my sfere, but interesting to read.

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Stefan Belibou

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Very interesting post.

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Andrea Gold

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I wish you a lot of success with this model and implementation of it, for measurable results, Thomas! Enjoy the process, and I hope you touch many people and organizations with it. Keep us informed.

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Martin Schröder

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Good content..

Great stuff Thomas.. also, sending me an email with a "please leave a comment on this blog" line.. great idea.. ;) Svenska Säkerhetsdörrar

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Alan Bowman

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Hi Thomas Which ever one professes to be, and I profess to being ORS and like Mick Say I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly on both Private and Public Boards and the biggest problem is EGO in all worlds. Once people can be selfless and not selfish anything is achievable, the hard part is changing the attitude of self. Cheers Alan

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Mick Say

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I think - I do - and so on

Hi Thomas I think that I have been ORS since birth but possibly only realized it in recent years, most of my "corporate" life I was definitely too trusting and too generous, which allowed people and businesses to take advantage of me and my time. As you know I generally think up a scheme or idea and jump in with both feet mostly ending with the expected result for such actions. More recently I have become more considered and thoughtful but still take risks to achieve my goal. Being ORS is great it wins a lot of friends but not necessarily a lot of paying clients which is why today I think twice instead of once. With regard to the internet I have dabbled for many years before the internet became part of my current profession so I am not sure if I have changed or just evolved ? You are aware of my past and current board membership activities and experience so shout if you would like to experiment with me.. Have fun - Mick

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Georgina Lester

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Brilliant. I am intrigued as to how you have compiled this and very much look forward to seeing the results. I know that with the conversations that we have had on many occasions, it is clear that it is a real challenge to define how to find those individuals with the right mindset for being ORS particularly online. Added to that there is a need to help them to get passed the culture of delegation and abdication. I don't think that you can genuinely be ORS through a third party although you can choose to work with people who understand the ethos and so can 'be' ORS naturally. The world as we know it is evolving at a phenomenal pace. When you see some of the changes that have occurred in an incredibly short period of time, then it seems to me to be imperative to embed this data into the thinking for future developments. For me, the questions would perhaps look to ascertain the origins of an ORS mentality. For example are they .... Family and upbringing?Religion?Country/culture?Community?Education?Awareness of self (including place and role in humanity)? What are the motivators? (or pay-offs?) Survival mechanisms (i.e. where scarcity encourages pooling resources)Instinct for procreation of the speciesAffluence (i.e. where there is abundance)Greed/manipulationAltruism/PhilanthropyHeavenly rewardsFear These are just things off the top of my head, I am sure that there is a comprehensive and more holistic list that would cover all aspects of human behaviour. However, my thinking is that if we can develop an understanding of the elements that can help to cultivate an ORS mindset then I think that we can perhaps pinpoint the route to show others of a more CSC mentality. The aim of course would be to help them to open up to the possibilities of a more serendipitous role that 'flows' where it needs to go.

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Simon Harding

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I would be interested to see how this plays out. I am currently on the boards of private and public companies and have worked with Boards of Directors for over 10 years.

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Demos Flouri

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Thomas, Great blog, out of interest, how do you define the "right way to be"? and why? Dx

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Lucas Wyrsch

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Dear Thomas, Thank you so much for your great blog and for sharing! ORS and CSC are both components of matter in the standard model of fundamental physics classifies quarks into six flavors: charm,strange,up,down,top andbottom. Quarks combine to form composite particles called hadrons, the most stable of which are protons and neutrons, the components of atomic nuclei. Up and down quarks have the lowest masses of all quarks. The heavier quarks rapidly change into up and down quarks through a process of particle decay: the transformation from a higher mass state to a lower mass state. Because of this, up and down quarks are generally stable and the most common in the universe, whereas strange, charm, top, and bottom quarks can only be produced in high energy collisions, such as those involving cosmic rays and in particle accelerators. Social media enable us to organize bottom-up, weak interactions that are mainly open, random and supportive, while private media enable us to organize top-down, strong interactions that are mainly close, selective and controlling ones. The Standard Model of particle physics is a theory concerning the electromagnetic, weak, and strong nuclear interactions, which mediate the dynamics of the known subatomic particles. Have fun and take care! Best, Lucas Join The Swiss Business Club - Join the GuanXi Game Club - Join the Risk Consulting Club - And Join Doing Business Virtually!

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Penny Power

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This is great to read in Black and White Thomas as I know how long this has been on your mind and how you think about things for a long time before releasing your thoughts when they are as fundamental as these ones are becoming What excited me is the delivery of this type of Coaching around being ORS and that will be an amazing journey for many. I like the fact you are seeking those thinkers and executors now to see who is interested already. Keep thinking my man Penny xx

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