If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Do we all need to connect to more people to make it work better, or should Ecademy connect us to people automatically under certain criteria?

I'm minded of Facebook which often asks me to pick people to mail with links to stuff I accept, sometimes I do that. Ecademy's different, of course, but when I like a Blog here I I always tweet it and sometimes I've had messages from people thanking me for the link and saying they've struck up a great conversation with the author - whom the didn't know before. Similarly I've had some great conversations with people who found my stuff through a like or a tweet.

Wouldn't it be good if when I liked something Ecademy sent a message to some of my contacts who aren't connected to alert them to the blog that I liked directly (they may not be looking on twitter - or may not be a member there) Perhaps I could pick them, perhaps the system could just do it for 20 or 50 random people in my contact list?

When I go to an event, wouldn't it be good if all the attendees were connected automatically, they'll be shaking hands at the event anyway, so why not help the electronic process along a bit?

Connecting business people shouldn't be an aspiration - it should be part of what Ecademy does for being a subscribing member here shouldn't it?

What other ways and triggers can you see for automatically connecting active participants here and helping relationships to start?


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Elaine Gold

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Good summary William

Personally I feel you have identified my concerns and I welcome the opportunity this thread has given to discuss possible changes. Elaine Gold Qatar Ecademy Regional Club Distinction Group Twitter Distinction Group Twitter Me http://unhub.com/ElaineGold

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William Buist

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

I totally agree with Andre - healthy and constructive debate is never about agreeing with one persons view (in order to demonstrate that you have heard it perhaps?) when you don't agree with it. I think Ian's concerns have been acknowledged throughout the thread, but I'll summarise my understanding as a concern that 'automating' connections is disliked because of a fear of those connections being inappropriate and bringing with them many more emails and much more spam. I said earlier like all conspiracy theories it doesn't actually matter what we say on the conspiracy, those who believe it is a conspiracy, believe it, those who don't don't and those who don't know continue in their uncertainty.) I have given the assurance before and I'll happily give it again - that this is a discussion to understand the issues - nothing more - certainly no decisions about how to design anything have yet been taken and all views are valid in designing anything, assuming that Ecademy decide to go ahead with changes in this area in the context of all the priorities they have for IT development work. My summary is that the real issues here are not about connecting with people per se, it's about inappropriate connections and email and spam. Some people want to have assistance in connecting and finding connections, that's also clear from this thread, just as much as some don't want the additional overhead that they see attached to automation. Making the machine do some of the work isn't a bad thing in it's own right, provided it doesn't damage or detract from networking how we each want to network. As Andre says we are collectively inventing the future and what that looks and feels like and the areas it covers depends on debates like this and the input or members here and in the User Group.

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Thank you I hope so! Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Ian Williams

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Andre :-) Guys - I'm being too angry about this whole thing - so I apologise for that. I don't know how this is going to turn out, but I fear that it may not be the way I would like to see it being. I've made my views clear enough now about how I feel, so all I can do is pray that something has made an impression. I suspect that William & I will never see eye to eye on this. I may have misinterpreted some of the things that have been said and may have misunderstood some things too. I've been told that I've been putting words in other people's mouths, which really wasn't my intention, so if it is the case, then I apologise for that too. There are some things that I'm sure I have understood properly though. The idea of someone being able to send me an automated connection request simple because we are in the same group fills me with dread. Attending the same event - possibly. Being in the same club - no. I would want to turn that off. I don't just want the option of declining the requests, I want the option of not receiving AUTOMATED requests in the first place. If someone is interested enough in me to want to connect, they can make the effort to seek me out. I network differently to other people - understandable, as we are not all the same. When I receive a connection request I want to take the time out to read through that person's profile. I know that Ebru works that way too. Probably many others work that way as well. This automated response would just create so much work for us. We would have to change the way we manage our in-boxes and the way we use use ecademy. Personally, that would be enough for me to leave. I feel that this is not being listened to. I'm being told that my way of working would be unfair to the people who would want to connect to me. I really don't get this. As I said already, if they want to connect, they can seek me out. Anyway - I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist, however I believe that a decision has already been made and people are trying to seek consensus after the event. Again - I could be being unfair, which I would apologise for in advance if I'm wrong. Let's watch this space. Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Ratnam Nadarajah

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Yes William your proposal is a very good idea and I would support you on most of your suggestions. I would go as far as saying Ecademy should connect people -all inclusive including business people! Ecademy should move on to the 21st century. Look at Twitter - it is growing at the the rate well over 1000% a month and may be more!! Please keep up the good work

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

So we're getting down to brass tacks now. Three things: 1. This is not Twitter. After the initial request and greetings message, you don't typically get any more from people. If you do (from tools like Tweet Later), this is considered to be spam and most people unfollow. 140 characters that float by on Tweetdeck or Seesmic, not loads of emails cluttering my inbox. 2. Andre - you say "One man's spam is another man's jam"! What can I say? People stopped spamming with Direct Mail years ago because it annoyed the public and became ineffective/ not cost efficient. This is why the MPS was introduced. The internet has changed this, as emails are more or less free to send. Spam still demonstrates scant disregard to all of the recipients who don't want it and a distinct lack of imagination from the marketers who use it - just chuck a load of sh#t at the wall and see what sticks - poor, poor marketing - it might give you a ROI, but it screws your brand. This is why targeted Marketing techniques were introduced. I hope you're having lots of fun with the herbal viagra offers you scraped out of your junk folder. 3. What Roger said (and I wish I had said it, as I've been mulling it over for a few days now) is the most intelligent thing I have heard in this post (I would say that ;-)). We are already all "connected" to each other in a way, as we are all members of ecademy, therefore giving ourselves potential access to each other. Connections are just databases within databases (although they are also increased internal linkages too, enhancing the attractiveness of the site for potential advertisers). The skill is finding the people who will make a difference. Increasing email traffic won't help that - it will just give you less time to find the good stuff. Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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William Buist

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Wow....

I haven't said you have to do it my way. I haven't said you'll get a contact request because you click on a blog. I haven't said you'll get a contact request because you click on an article. I haven't said you'll get a contact request because you click on a comment. It seems you are getting angry about things that aren't even part of the discussion, so who is being ignored here, I know how it feels from where I am,

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Tony Humphrey

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Inviting Travellers / Travelers to use TopTravelVouchers! Good one Ian.....we all should need reasons to connect.....we must have options.....I want biz connections but do not want non-biz activity...my choice and the reason I am networking.....anyway ....what do you do with hundreds or thousands of 'connections' or 'friends' ...unless you operate a MLM biz....cheers, tony@thetoptravelclub.com All travel business operators are welcome to connect with my program at TheTopTravelClub.com for FOC promotions....no kidding!

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Ian Williams

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Spam, spam, spam, spam

William What's the problem? If some people want to do it your way, then fine, but if people don't network in the same way that you do, then why impose your modus operandi on everyone else? I'm not suggesting that you network my way, so why create functionality that means that everyone else has to do it your way? At least provide an opt-out. What's the problem with that? You ask what the fear is. I don't want hundred of contact requests just because I might have clicked on a blog, article or comment. Or because I'm in the same club. Or because I'm in the same town. Event - yes - I can see the sense there. I'm not deny people the opportunity to connect through normal means - if they take enough of an interest in me to make an approach - but not through some random automated process. If someone likes a comment, they seek me out and they attempt to connect - great. Ecademy isn't just about connecting to people, its about connecting to people for a reason - a good reason. Clicking on the same link as someone else isn't a good enough reason. If you want to do it that way, then fine, but don't impose it on me. This is now getting ridiculous. People are coming up with good middle grounds and it seems like they are just getting ignored. Thanks for thinking for me. Ladies and gentlemen - let the spam begin... Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

William With regard to your suggestions, I think that recipients still need to be given the option, not only to accept these "automated" requests, but also whether they want to receive them in the first place. Just because I read someone's blog doesn't automatically mean that I want them to send me an automated request. Same with club membership. I want to be able to opt out from receiving the 'automated' requests in the first place. See what I mean? Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Simon Morice

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Coming from me the following may appear contradictory to my normal position. And it surprises me a bit too. Science is great but not for everything. We are not Vulcans. I counsel against solely using empirical methods for exploring this issue. I was sharply reminded by the Prince of Wales' superb Dimbleby Lecture earlier this week that there are at least three equally important perspectives from which humans as a whole view the world. At risk of seeming glib but for the sake of being concise, the scientific addresses the question how, philosophy addresses what and religion addresses why. We still find value in the two and a half or so thousand year old work of Sun Tzu so maybe we still have much to learn from classical philosophy and from religion which has been a part of human life as far back as we can see. It is also quite clear that social science is a misnomer and a bad fit. Hard science does not usefully deal with the intangibles of love, comradeship, fear, hope, justice and faith etc. To a 100% scientific perspective these things do not exist so other corners of the triangle must be used. We western humans have fallen into the trap of seeing things from just one corner of our minds. It is quite clear from reading comments in this blog that many people will not be content with a new means of addressing a limitation about which they are not concerned - a new how if you like. It will be an imposition not least because they did not ask for it. For some of us a large network is not a part of a better life and for others it does not fit their belief system. So I suppose that useful functionality is always rightly added but that it should be up to the individual to discover its utility on their own account. Of course some will not embrace it and why should they? In a study to find the best coffee the results were not terribly helpful until somebody noticed that about six different types satisfied most people. An average or mean coffee would be useless but a choice of six different ones was good in the absence of a median. Could it be the same with networking populations? Shouldn't there be enough ways to participate? Simon Morice - engaging stories told economically film and video production and post production +442070783289

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William Buist

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Very interesting - Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

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Andre Besselaar

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Perhaps some research will indicate what current trends are in this regard and what is predicted or proposed for the future If each of us can provide one study relevant on this topic at least we can deal with this in a scientific way. My contribution: The authors looked at Facebook, Twitter, My Space, LinkedIn and also gives a nice summary of how we got to this point in time regarding Social Networking Systems. Source: International Journal of Computer Science and Applications, ÓTechnomathematics Research Foundation Vol. 6, No. 2, pp 50 -65, 2009 Paper: CONTEXT-AWARENESS, THE MISSING BLOCK OF SOCIAL NETWORKING PDF URL Context -awareness, the missing block of social networking Conclusion as stated in paper "In this paper, based on an analysis of usual features of modern Social Networking Sites, we have identified several opportunities to improve the social communication experience of users by bringing context-awareness into these SNS. Assuming that social communication is triggered by sharing contextual artifacts such as content or personal information, we proposed to leverage context information to assist this sharing, allowing users to focus on the communication instead of the sharing process. With this assistance, we intend to increase social awareness, and thus trigger more communication between people while not requiring them to spend more time on SNS. We also introduced the concept of hyperlocal communications, translating the SNS communication paradigm to face-to-face encounters of unrelated people, in the "Meeting Room Assistant". In this meeting situation, the communication of participants is enriched (or augmented) with SNS-like interactions without the burden of "social searching", sending "invites" and requesting "friendship"." Hope this helps put us on a more solid path of discussion

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Ebru Ulufer

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hi William, Thanks for asking our opinion. I don't think this is a good idea as I prefer to grow my network organically. So my answer will be "no, thanks". By the way, I am really getting fed up with "Hi. I was sending invitations to my contacts to join my Network on Ecademy and discovered you were already here. Please add me to your contact network" messages. Isn't there a way to stop this ? I will not accept such contact requests because these people don't even know I exist. Shall I give an example ? Someone sent me a message to connect and I accepted and wrote him back. Shortly after that I met him on an Ecademy event and said hello in a friendly way. He asked me who I was. I said he sent me a message and we are connected. He told me that he had a big network and surely he could not remember everyone on his network. I found his answer very rude and since then I do not want to get connected with people who are after numbers only. Ebru Free Coaching | The Work You Were Born To Do Free Multimedia E-Course | 10-Step Plan to Career Change | Career Coaching

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Petronella du Toit

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hallo William Maybe an automatic contact connection in the market place section will do great such as "potential customer / supplier" by location or by product etc ? Petronella

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Ian Williams

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Very fair

Now - how can I help to design it? Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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William Buist

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

I love interesting conversations, they are never noise. Out of this one I'm now also having a number of side conversations with some of the participants too. Some of those are exploring aspects of what we do as a business, so it's definitely not noise in the business. If you are in the room, BE in the room, participation drives conversation, conversation drives cooperation and ultimately business. Ian, you've made the conspiracy statement at least 3 times, so I refer you to the small print in my "Area 51" comment , I suspect you've decided it is a conspiracy and any denial would simply fuel your belief, but in case I'm wrong I'll give yet another assurance that I raised the topic because I was interested in the conversation that would ensue. Nothing more. I'm delighted with the outcome. Ian's summary is a good one. One third would like more automation in some aspects of the system - I think there's something to think about how that could be done. One Third don't and their needs are just as important. I'd conclude that Ecademy should do something, but I'm not sure how it should be designed, that meets the needs of both groups and those who are undecided will see what happens and make their decisions based on the experience of whatever was done. Is that a fair summary.

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Thomas & William Thomas said: "William I think you are really onto something here and judging by the debate you are ;-)" What is it exactly that you are "onto" here? One third think it's a good idea, one third have caveats and one third think it's a bad idea. If this was research, it would prove inconclusive. The most sensible marketers would plum for the middle option, giving some the option to opt in and some the option to opt out. Please persuade me and everyone else that this is not a set-up. Please persuade me and everyone else that conversations were not held asking a BlackStar to voice an idea for feedback in a public forum on behalf of ecademy senior management. If you want to do research, then that's fine, but the worst researchers are the ones that only hear the things they want to. I hope we don't have selective hearing here. How does ANYBODY get any work done? Including you William. You have spent so much time on this discussion so far. Your last comment last night was at 1.35 and your first this morning was at 9.05. Is this not noise to your business? Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Gordon Wheaton

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In my opinion, networking is a journey and we all need to embark on that journey to meet people. After the event, we keep in touch with people. This is only my opinion though. Regards Gordon

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Nic Oliver

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I guess it boils down to the purpose of being connected. If you connect people automatically, or at the very least provide the kind of facility you suggest in your original post, then I suspect that people will merely create 'networks within networks'. I already keep a bookmarked list of those with whom I wish to keep in regular contact; that way I never have to upset people by refusing to connect with them if they ask me but I can manage my list proactively. Keep up the good work Nic Oliver Organisational Transformation Integrated Healing Wizards of Alchemy blog "People won't care how much you know, until they know how much you care"

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Ratnam Nadarajah

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Yes William you are right. People from all walks of life ,be it from the world of business,commerce or even students can join networks and be able to expand their horizon as it were. Professional networkers do it smart while others like me have to struggle!! But in the end we will all get there for sure. Never say never! Thanks for your contribution to the Ecademy

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Red Setter

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Are the 'increasing connectedness' ideas being driven by the apparent success of Twitter ? It's true that Twitter 'drives' people to connect - I follow more people on Twitter in less than one year than the contacts I have here after five years. But that does NOT mean I have more quality conversations on Twitter. It does mean I see a stream of messages - 99% of which are not relevant to me. Interestingly I get more direct messages on Ecademy than I do on Twitter - if I ignore all the initial DMs when connections are set up. I am not complaining about Twitter - it is a new technology with few tools to allow users to sift and manage the information on their message streams. And I am still a novice in the world of Social Media and am still learning - even after this time. FYI I abandoned facebook over a year ago because of all the auto-generated traffic it was throwing at me. Evidence that in the end the customer will get what they want - by hook or by crook ? :) Twitter has in my view drained a lot of messaging traffic from other sites - including Ecademy. But a lot of that is unwanted noise, and is not missed. So can Ecademy restore its traffic levels by driving up quality contacts and discussions - that is the challenge it faces ? Regards George Montgomery GBS Group - Business Growth Consultancy

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Elaine Gold

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Well this has generated a heated, interesting and varied debate - with a number of issues that probably deserve to be 'spun off' into a separate debate. In response to the core question of automating or not the connection of people... I'm 'For' this proposal with the caveat that there are selection criteria which I have control over - happy to connect with any individuals in my region (Middle East) or who have similar interests - (tags, 50 words) for example But would be 'Against' the kind of mess of contacts which signing up for the Twitter 'follow me' type of 'enhancements' result in! Let's see where the discussion goes today Elaine Gold Qatar Ecademy Regional Club Distinction Group Twitter Distinction Group Twitter Me

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William Buist

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

No, I get less noise with a larger contact list - Free members can't initiate a message, but they can reply. Subscribers can message you anyway - connected or not. So you get the benefit of a better core 100 and no more noise at all, possibly less - certainly fewer distractions. Growing contacts is all about better visibility, not more chatter. As an example, as a result of this blog I've had a number of messages from people sharing their views about this blog, not noise, but focussed conversation on a topic of interest.

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hi William It wasn't the 'watch this blog' box that was unticked, it was the comments box under email notification settings - so not on this page - right at the heart of my settings, which I was nowhere near. Must just be a bug in the system. I can see that continuing to grow your network continues to enhance the quality of your 'core 100', however what about all the reams of noise you must get from your ever increasing 'others'. Is that not a distraction? Cheers Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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William Buist

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Make sure the follow this blog box is ticked below the original blog, if that got unset by an accidental mouse click it overrides the other one which sets the flag only when you post a comment. The top one sets or unsets the flag whether you post or not, so it can be accidentally switched off almost without you knowing. Also at this time of night some maintenance jobs run which can slow down the delivery of mail slightly. I agree that Ecademy and twitter are different, and different tactics and strategies are needed for each. There's another point here too, Free members can't initiate a message, but they can reply. Subscribers can message you anyway connected or not. Connecting you up won't change the message noise you receive much or at all for random spammy type messages, but it will make your stuff more visible to them and their stuff more visible to you if you are browsing Ecademy. That means conversations are more likely to happen when there is a common interest, but no more likely to happen in random or spurious circumstances. That's a subtlety of the way Ecademy works that may not be clear. I think it has a key part to play in why larger networks are more focussed and less time consuming. Incidentally you can have twitter send you emails for direct messages and some twitter clients send alerts for keywords and mentions too.

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

That was Roark's comment, not mine... Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Well I never! Unsubscribed from comment alerts again - twice in one evening. How did that happen? Still not convinced. I DO automate Twitter, but Twitter and ecademy are two different things. Ecademy's principle mode of communication is an email. Other than a connection message and a direct 'greetings' message at the start of a relationship, you don't get anything else from Twitter. Twitter is a 'river' of information - if you miss a tweet it's gone forever. It doesn't sit in your inbox. Ecademy is not a river - it's a bath. It gets emptied when you pull the plug out, but that takes time to filter to ensure you don't throw the babies out with the bath water! Different horses for courses... Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Roark McMaster

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hey William, Area 51, and change rides a pale horse - or not bro' - you skirted and ducked the real issue. A weak and rather unexpected tactic. I'd expect a more balanced and accurate response. What does your up to date quantitative analysis tell you about the needs and requirements of your members? Simple question. Get f++king real.

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Ian Williams

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Wow

I was just "unsubscribed" from receiving comment notifications - and had to reset my settings. Now I am getting paranoid. Please explain how it works William - it is counter intuitive. I'll be the first to convert. Waco here I come... Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Ian Williams

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Who needs Torchwood?

;-) Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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William Buist

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Let the conspiracy theories begin

It's great to see area 51 appear in bogs like this - It's kind of inevitable. Is change coming - Of course it is - it always is. Will this change come - possibly some variation of it. Who knows. I don't. Is it a conspiracy or a debate after the fact. Nope, (Now the small print... like all conspiracy theories it doesn't actually matter what we say on the conspiracy, those who believe it is a conspiracy, believe it, those who don't don't and those who don;t know continue in their uncertainty.) Intersting thoughts here though.

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Ian Williams

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Nanny state. Give me a choice to opt out or I'm out forever. Thousands will go too. The matter is simple. You increase the contacts, you increase the traffic. You increase the traffic, you increase the noise. Think of the impact on people's in-boxes. Only the people with the best propositions will be heard. It will become elitist. The all-so-rans will get sick of it and fall away and the elitists will be left all alone. Oxygen starvation. Death. This type of 'optimisation' behaviour is what I would expect to see a large corporate doing before floating or buy-out. Either I'm being paranoid (likely) or something will change. Watch this space (they may be coming to take me away ;-)) Why not give people the option to opt-out? Frightened people might use it? Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Roark McMaster

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Wow. Steven states - the journey is what counts. Probably spot on. At least two others think the changes are a foregone conclusion and this debate is after the fact. (?) If this is the case- then perceived consultation is a sham. I'm still stuck on the beyond.ecad ? blog from a couple days ago. Isn't the choice to control selection, influence, manage, and develop ones own contacts - down to the individual? If there are 'new' tools to aid with this process, then isn't it right to let the individual member choose to make use of these tools? Are we 'lovin it' or are we 'having it our own way'? Are we eating a Big Mac or a Whopper? As a platform, playing catch up, and 'me too', doesn't strike me as innovative. Coming up with a new 'me too' program is not what this platform was built on a decade ago, and I don't think it is the way to enter the next decade. Take a view on the long haul, and the irresistable offer that this or any other platform makes to its members. A core group of sane people on this site appear to hang around. Does the Ecad team know why these people stick around? What do these people need, want, or require, from this place? What does the data indicate as the preference (s) for this group of people? What do the renegades, saints, and those in between; want, need, and require to build better relationships, and move their own and others goals forward? How do you know? What does the data suggest? Maybe I just don't get it yet. Too busy with a pretty good journey of trying to build something worthwhile.

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

And now Mr P speaks... This is all smacking of desperation. and I quote William: "Wouldn't it be good if when I liked something Ecademy sent a message to some of my contacts who aren't connected to alert them to the blog that I liked directly (they may not be looking on twitter - or may not be a member there) Perhaps I could pick them, perhaps the system could just do it for 20 or 50 random people in my contact list?" And this would somehow reduce the noise? Different people network in different ways. If you want to make this a feature, then at least give people the option to opt in or out. Can't we #@=*$# think for ourselves? As I said, let the spam begin... Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Hans Terhurne

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hans Terhurne CreaMatics

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Dominic Fernandez - www.computants.org

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Automation is GOOD .... BUT ....

..... PEOPLE are not machines! They have likes / dislikes, they are RED, YELLOW, GREEN and BLUE, and .... Personally, I am an Open Networker, and have gone deep-n-wide. LinkedIn has a "Top Linked" / "LION" option(s) --- members who opt-in for these, receive automatic "Invitation to connect ..." from other members. What would help is the spreading of g@@d news - that of Open Networking, this kinda of exists on / in Ecademy, without it really being recognized and understood. let's go 'bell the PEOPLE'! Dom Fernandez

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Petronella du Toit

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hallo William What ever you do just never imitate facebook who cater for a total different group with different needs. I don't mind sharing knowledge but indeed with sharing my privacy. Can not use facebook at all, not even send ecademy feed to it as my business life is totally separate from my personal life. Twitter, being business orientated is great though. Petronella

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mark wing

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Great idea, Let's make the technology work harder for us! Perhaps it could recognise the top 25 people who are connected the most to the 'you' and the key words in the 'message' posted. I would prefer there to be some logic in the system, rather than simply random selection. There is plenty of networking opportunity elsewhere for each of us to embrace the values of random connections at our will.

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Red Setter

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

As Timi above said. Include a section in the profile in which members tick from a selection of connection requirements. The Ecademy system then uses that to 'build' connections between relevant members. If no boxes are ticked, then the system does not make any connections for those members. Regards George Montgomery GBS Group - Business Growth Consultancy Join the 100k Entrepreneur Club - The Business Network on Ecademy & LinkedIn and Develop Your Business Ideas.

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Stewart Graham

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

William I've read with interest the comment for and against auto connecting. People have said they want to 'know' the person before they connect. One person also said that they were not keen on the view 'how can you know them before you connect with them' and did not feel that was valid. When you walk into a room for a networking event, do you only go up to those people you've met before and stick to them or do you go and introduce yourself to new people you've not met to see if you have some common link or can be of any assistance to each other? You do the latter! If you don't do the latter, what is the point of going to the networking event? Networking is about meeting new people all the time, reconnecting with others you've met before or seeing if you can help someone to connect with someone else where the relationship can be beneficial. Ecademy (E) is simply an online version of that same situation. Once you've connected with someone, you can always break that connection if you want to and put that person in your 'blocked' list. Walking up to that girl or boy when you've seen them across the room for the first time and thought 'Wow s/he's gorgeous!' to try that first conversation is the same principle. How do you know you're going to like or dislike someone until you start to develop a relationship with them. How would that girl or boy react if the first thing you said was 'We can only talk to each other through other people at the moment until I know if I'm going to like you!' I don't understand what 'fear' people are feeling from connecting with lots of 'potentially' great people who 'could' not only enhance their lives but also their businesses!!! Just the same way as a person to person encounter and the two main reasons we connect with each other. Stewart Avalon Solutions "

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John Amy - Graphic Design

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

and what about the people we DON'T want to connect to? We block them yes? So Ecademy turns itself inside out. Connect with everyone and then spend one's time filtering the people you don't want anything to do with instead of carefully selecting who you do want to connect to.

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

William If this is a done deal, then just say so please. Some people don't like the idea of auto-connect and I can understand why. The idea of "how do you know whether you have a reason to connect until you connect" is ridiculous. You might as well connect everyone to everyone and get it over with. Then everyone will get "noise" and only the people who shout loudest (with the strongest propositions) will get listened too. You will lose 90% of the population because they will start being spammed and stop being heard. If you want to make the site more attractive to advertisers by increasing internal linkages, this is not the way. This would kill ecademy and further worsen its already tarnished reputation. As I've said before, some people I have spoken to in the past have called ecademy "a website for desperate people all spamming each other". PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't do it. or...let the spam begin... Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Sally Bean

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

William. Thanks for sending me a notification of this blog so I can comment, but I would really hate this. Everyone is different and uses networking differently. I would want to be able to opt out of both sending and receiving these messages.

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Andreas Wiedow

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Interesting proposition, William, And would be full in line with all the other 'by default' set automats on ecademy if embedded. Though I'm not sure if ecademy should also set this on default when launching. Lovely that this is kinda being discussed prior to any final outputs. Tune in . . . Baby, I Love You by Andy Kim . . . :-) Have fun, Andreas Wiedow - Alan's Daddy

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Simon Morice

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Complexity, data points and degrees of freedom

Once you go above a certain number of connections in any particular context then they become impersonal and you need another means of segmenting them. When I first joined Ecademy all my contacts were people whom I had met or with whom I had a dialogue. Fairly soon I realised that I had a network where I knew nothing about most of the people in it. Then I joined other networks and increased the number of connections to the point that I now know only a very small proportion of those people. On Twitter I experimented with connection automation and am now connected to heaven knows who. I certainly don't have the time to investigate the 2100 or so people. And now I rarely get to look at what is happening on Twitter as it's mostly irrelevant. Apparently Twitter has is a means of grouping your connections and filtering Tweets - I have not looked at it yet. I begin to suspect that small and focused is probably better for doing social things but large followings are good for generating interest in, say, a movie. Or for having fans if you need them to be famous - Like Stephen Fry et al. I am not for a moment suggesting it's wrong. The point is that as the number of my connections exceeds a certain number (probably the Dunbar number) then my networks tips from being personal to impersonal and unless there ways to segment the network it becomes as much use as being a member of a species. There are too many to be useful and the problem becomes how to find friends. So I would say that if Ecademy is going to connect me to everyone it has in a stroke turned itself into the equivalent of a telephone directory. Quite useful but cold calling is now so last century. So what to do? Network searching and sorting is probably the most useful function for using a large network. A large number of connections means that you will almost certainly find someone to meet your criteria but you'll probably know nothing about them - the Yellow Pages problem. Reporting on encounters and providing reputation seems a good idea. This removes some of the degrees of freedom which renders a system complex and therefore less usable. We need to be able to tag other nodes as friend, acquaintance, foe etc. So if you are contemplating connecting us to everyone then so long as there are tools for sorting, finding and for creating small and personal sub-networks, discovering the needle in the haystack and adding metadata if you will, then I shall not mind.

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Timi Ogunjobi

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Why not make members define their connection preferences (e.g I am a Widgets consultant and I want to be connected to lawyers and accountants in UK) ,and then the system can immediately suggest names which fit this criteria so that I can immediately benefit from my membership ; rather than have all sorts who are not even able to spell my name correctly, send me crank messages every day. PS: I am a WhiteStar I am not allowed to speak unless I am spoken to first ! Drupal - Moodle - Joomla Development : www.websesame.com

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Stewart Graham

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hi William I think its a good idea. Afterall, we're all on Ecademy to connect with people. I wouldn't walk into a room and turn my back on someone when they tried to speak to me because I am interested in meeting people all the time - this is effectively what is happening on Ecademy if I ignore a request to connect. A few years ago I constantly argued with Lawyers about putting their mobile phone and direct line numbers their business cards. 'I'll get loads of calls direct!' Apart from the fact that their clients could get hold of them direct, something for some strange reason they did not want, no one called them, no one bombarded them with messages. The same principle applies to Ecadmeny. I've heard people say they don't want to connect to just everyone because they will then in inundated with messages - it doesn't happen! I've never had more than one email from the CAT guys and that was asking to connect. Why is anyone on Ecademy unless they want to connect with people? I've experienced a situation where I was struggling with the emotions of setting up a new company and working from home. A friend of mine, who I'd not spoken to for a while and not seen for longer, sent me an emailI out of the blue which said 'hang in there, it will happen'. He had no idea how I was feeling. I never know who I might be able to help when I log in and connect to someone Stewart Avalon Solutions "

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John Amy - Graphic Design

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

I think there are different opinions about what networking really is. On one hand there is the professional networker who just treats it as a numbers game but ultimately manages to reach a lot of people (Twitter etc) but on a very shallow level. On the other hand there is the networker who likes to have a more personal relationship with the people in their network. Most people lie somewhere between the two but I tend towards the second. I'm inundated with people wanting to connect with me - mainly from outside The UK nowadays, but that's another story - but they can't even be bothered to write a personal message.

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Fred Thompson

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Fred B Thompson Managing the flow of incoming information can take a great deal of time. This would obviously increase user traffic, so limits should be considered.General commonality is still a fairly random measure to push traffic onto users. When it comes to specific situations, such as events, it would be beneficial to notify all registered attendees. In this case each person has a direct interest to the subject and a common interest amongst all who receive the information. There is tremendous interest given to outside entities like facebook and twitter everywhere on the web and your comments reflect this as well. Maybe, as part of this discussion you should explore how to make it easier for users to interact with say, twitter without having to leave ecademy. On one site that I am involved in, MyarchN, your friendly network about architecture, they have added the application tweetboard. It places a tab on the page from which you can open into twitter directly and all tweets are relating to MyarchN. You are also able to enter new tweets. This brings micro blogging to the site, there is commonality amongst the users and it keeps the users on the main site.

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Mark C J Posen

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hi William, I don't like the idea of Ecademy sending out messages to (random?) contacts each time I "like" something on the site. It sounds a bit spammy to me and I think that it is likely to be perceived that way. Looking at it from the other side, I really don't want to receive PMs from my contacts telling me what they "like". It's not the same as twitter, which is a rather more transient, take-it-or-leave-it kind of network. Here, I can see that our inboxes would rapidly fill from the "like" generated messages (especially as some people seem to "like" almost everything, with an eye on the rankings, perhaps!). Regarding automatically connecting everyone who attends an event, I guess I'm agnostic but perhaps tending towards not liking the idea. Although I automatically accept all connect requests sent to me (I only do that because I haven't got time to wade through my inbox and process all the random connect messages), at least those messages are directed at me personally by someone who has at least looked at my profile. If I attend a meeting with 200 participants and find myself connected automatically to all of them, when maybe only a small proportion have even met me or looked at my profile, this seems to be a rather different scenario. On balance I'm not really sure it's a good idea. As others have said, thanks for the opportunity to comment before changes are implemented, but on balance I'd drop both these ideas. Regards, Mark

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Not active

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

A rough idea: Yesterday I posted a tweet on the Ecademy weblog as a new topic (was a nice conversation with Richard Derwent Cooke. It is an idea to enable tweets within the blogsystem and invite fellow-tweeters to join the discussion on ecademy. Make of each blog-contribution a small tweet (like in the Netherlands throug Jan Mulder). A new way to attracting new members? Groeten, Sibren Sibren ontwerpt | embrace - share - increase | twitter.com/Sibren | Download bureauprofiel >> Hoe onderscheidend durf je te zijn?

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Tony Humphrey

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Anything that can produce more Biz action is fine by me. I find LinkedIn more useful for biz and have backed away from Ecad for this reason. I do not want a pyramid of downline connections but am seeking global biz connections for partnering opportunities but my efforts with Ecad have not proved worthwhile. Also, there does not seem to be (apart from this discussion) much interest in offering commentary by Ecademists to most posted discussions. I have posted a number of biz-type discussions on many forums seeking Ecad assistance in finding local travel biz operators that might want free global promotion....small biz is the driving force of economies......very little action on these posts. For networking and networks to work....networkers must actually network with networkers in networks! Thet's my twopenn'th....from TheTopTravelClub.com tony@thetoptravelclub.com

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Roger Ings

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

There seems to be a pattern emerging here, i.e. that the individual retain the right to decide what they receive or reject. Does "Open Random and Supportive" always mean "acceptance"? Probably not. At the end of the day we might totally accept the concept of OR&S but still retain the right to reject something or have the final judgement because we fundamentally disagree. To some extent what you are suggesting is already covered by Netnews where constantly changing Likes and Postings etc are displayed for members to see and react to. If you like a particular posting you have the option to pick it out and pass it on to any of your contacts you think might benefit. That's what networking is about. I also frequently find that I receive a rash of requests to connect just because I've clicked on a Like button and then appeared on Netnews. You can't get more random than that. I don't have to accept the requests if I don't want to but it is my decision. Similarly, if you are attending an event, you have the option to view the list of attendees and identify those you want to connect with. Automatically connect to the 200+ people who attend the event at Victoria every month? Not very practical, although I will concede that it might work well in a group of up to a dozen or so. Kind regards, Roger Ings Strings Security Limited

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Hans Terhurne

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Thinking about persons and connections between them there is analogy to our brain - there it's not/less about the number of brain cells but about the number of connections between them (can be increased every day and even at a high age ;-)) Hans Terhurne CreaMatics

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Andre Besselaar

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

1. "Do we all need to connect to more people to make it work better, or should Ecademy connect us to people automatically under certain criteria?" Definitely connect people under certain criteria. 1.1 I have been trying to build up a network here of MEANINGFUL contacts, i.e. those that fit my business objectives, but it has been a mission 1.2 I would like to be connected on signing up to a database of contacts as part of Ecademy's services to help me start networking quickly 1.3 To achieve this I would propose something like a comprehensive category form that generates appropriate keywords to connect meaningfully. 1.4 Grade the number of contacts allowed into an add-on contacts service and charge appropriately 1.5 With all that is going on in the world there is no more time to "enjoy the ride" of networking, unfortunately. Every networking system I go to or join is complex in nature and its not helping business at all as the process are slow. Make things simpler, easier and if I make money, Ecademy makes money and I will gladly buy shares! 2. "Connecting business people shouldn't be an aspiration - it should be part of what Ecademy does for being a subscribing member here shouldn't it?" 2.1 Exactly, lets do business first, its tough out there and its not just economic threats that are looming. 2.2 The internet is getting almost impossible to navigate, a lot of time and money must be spent on safety, security and privacy issues, conflicter virus has now infected millions and has shut down to protect itself and is starting to "use" its infected hosts. (Search Norton). 2.3 Biologically the world is under threat of a major pandemic that in its current "mild" form has had an enormous effect on certain economic sectors and at least the US thinks its serious enough to have a government flu summit way ahead of the oncoming flu season. 2.4 I would gladly buy in to an Ecademy system that provides me with at least a base of contacts with a privacy system in place of course. 3. "What other ways and triggers can you see for automatically connecting active participants here and helping relationships to start?" 3.1 As in 1.3 and 1.5. Perhaps start with country specific connections first. 3.2 Make the site simpler. Too busy, too much functionality. Too many choices. It all takes time to get into and one simply cannot keep up with the system, your own business as well as keeping current in your business area. 3.3 Its fine to get everyones input, but its not a good business model right now. Base the site functionality on research into current business requirements and provide simple means to assist these requirements. A good example: 37Signals (3 million customers certainly proves the point) 3.4 So many clubs. rather categorize a fixed amount of clubs and consider new ones as appropriate. Its exhausting trying to keep up with clubs as good postings, information etc. is spread widely. 3.5 Simplify the site, less choices as the current business situation demands a more Closed Selective Controlling (CSC) concept as opposed to the Open Random Supportive (ORS) concept (See Thomas's blog : Business : Closed Selective Controlling meets Open Random Supportive), for now anyway as the situation demands this. (See my comment on the blog - even got 3 "likes" :-) I have it on good authority that certain Global non profit organizations are increasingly using sms as their major networking and communicating tool, a trend now implemented after seeing this predicted several years ago in the communications sector, particularly in developing countries. They are going this way as its simple, uncomplicated, direct, low cost and works a high % of the time. All research I have done indicates that the next 2 to 3 years will be a critical period for Global issues and the above comments reflects part of this research. Evolutionary Change, Revolutionary Speed

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David Hackett

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Group creation

Hi William, Another thought provoking post and very enjoyable to read it with all members comments. Facebook has very nice functionality whereby you can follow Groups and be kept up to date of what is happening with that group. Within Ecademy this could work if you also had the option to network within the group that you are a member of. This functionality exists within linkedin and helps bring like minded people together. It also makes the group open discussions and blog posts more interesting as they are always directly related to the group that you subscribed to be in. I wish continued success to Ecademy in their quest to bring like minded business people together to discuss, share and work together. Dave David Hackett Business Development Manager cmypitch.com | helping businesses succeed direct: + 44 (0) 207 386 1677 cmypitch profile: click here www.cmypitch.com

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Mike 'Smiling f@cebook' Farrow

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

. It would be nice to subscribe to a group (or a number of groups) of people and see all of their activity in a feed like format or in a daily email digest, make it so! Warm regards, Mike We develop Facebook, Twitter and YouTube / Google apps and widgets, marketing technolgy for social business networking.

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Personal & Biz Dev Coach - Salim

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Mr.William Buist after 16+ yrs of being around the globe and being with different nationalities . As I am a coach myself and coach individuals,Business Owners to achieve success in different spheres of life.I usually am successful in defining their life path and objective.Well why all this discussion because after all this I feel the only reality that we have is our experience that we get and that can increase manifold if we network with individuals of different origins , school of thought or etc.. So I feel the connections should be done not automatically but some notification should be received saying that it feels you can connect with this person based on ones personal data . Well Thanx for having such a wonderful network in place as I am only saying but you are doing it so HATS OFF TO YOU YOU ARE AHEAD OF ME .ITS EASY TO COMMENT BUT HARD TO GET THINGS THROUGH. Salim Shaikh { Counselor , Speaker , Writer , Consultant , Trainer , Coach } Bridging the gap between Academia & Industry -Director Brains International - Director Catalyst -Executive Director,Apple Inc. U.S Authorised Service & Sales Partners,Solution Experts & Retail - Citizen Journalism Email-sallimsh@yahoo.com " No one can predict to what heights you can soar, Even you will not know until you spread your wings " "Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. Spread environmental awareness."

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Jeremy "Open Source" Tarrier

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

My personal take is that if this feature was implemented, I would want an option on my profile that would enable/disable such a feature. In the event I decided to allow it, I would still want final approval. Many of the professionals I have spoken to bemoan the amount of spam and spurious email received on a daily basis. For myself, even after the spam filters have removed the obvious rubbish I still have approximately 100-200 legitimate emails per day to wade through. Adding to this would be a major inconvenience. In a nutshell: it's an ok idea but I would like both coarse and fine grained control over it. - Jeremy

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Doug Holman

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Initially, the idea is appealing to those of an Open, Randon and Supportive disposition - but there may be a couple of drawbacks. First, if everyone is connected to everyone else, wouldn't it be harder to find someone whose name you had forgotten? Second, doesn't the actual connection process have value? There's the classic tale of the child watching the chrysalis transform into a butterfly. Observing the struggle, the child wants to help by providing a small incision with a pen knife. The wise parent prevents this, explaining that without the struggle, the butterfly will not have developed the strength to fly. Having said that, the idea of automatic connection to those attending the same event makes a lot of sense, particularly if that information is also searchable. Doug Holman New Dimension Enterprises Ltd, Grayshott, Hampshire, UK Harnessing on-line simulations to help businesses GROW! Leader of the Business Simulation Club

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Richard Singleton

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hmmm, interesting idea, maybe it would work if not overdone. Dilip's suggestion is surely how Ecademy used to be, something that I commented on a few weeks back, along the lines of ....things that I miss.... when one logged on to Ecademy it gave about 5 suggestions of people that had comon interests. Some of my early and much valued connections were made this way. I guess it was dropped and replaced by the 'Featured Black Star' which has rarely done much for me. Maybe we are just going round in circles! All the best.... Richard Singleton Digital design. SEO, eMarketing and I.T. Consultancy Doing I.T. for business for over 25years! SAVE TIME, TRAVEL & MONEY WITH WEBOFFICE http://www.singleton.uk.com Beautiful Holiday Apartment to rent in Bosa, North West coast of Sardinia Apartments, Villas and B&B in Bosa, Sardinia

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Alan Stevens

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

William, Fair comment. You suggest that Ecademy is a bit of a hybrid beast at present, perhaps. Why not redesign it to make it more like Twitter? Or give people the choice as to how they view/use it? Best wishes Alan Alan Stevens, Author of The Pocket Media Coach. Presenter of The Mediacoach Radio Show Director of MediaCoach Training and Coaching for Media Skills, Presentations and Public Speaking. Specialists in Crisis Management. Tel/Fax +44 (0) 20 8220 6919 Mobile : 07986 852621 Watch a video of me speaking to London Ecademy here. Watch my videos at Your Business Channel Follow me on Twitter

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Tessa Shepperson

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Without wishing to sound obstructive, I get quite enough notifications from Ecademy as it is. I do not really want many more. I also want to control whether a notification that I have liked something goes out to ecademy members, twitter or whatever. If I feel that my liking something is causing spam for others, then I will stop using the like button. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? Tessa Shepperson Solicitor and editor of www.landlordlaw.co.uk and the Ecademy Landlord Law Club. I also write a blog at http://landlordlaw.blogspot.com, have a Landlord Law Facebook page, and you can follow me on twitter.

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Solveigh Calderin

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

I think, it's not such a good idea to connect people automatically. I would like to have the choice - anyway. It is not always important, how many contacts you have, but also the quality of the contacts is important as well. So I do not use any automatic tools, which in last time are offered, for example, for twitter to get I-don't-know-how-many-followers-a-day. On Twitter I receive sometimes, for example, contact requests from spammers, which already are followed by some people, because they use such automated tools and do not really see and know, whom they follow. No, I would like to choose my contacts for myself and I would like to decide for myself, with whom I like to be connected or not - really or electronically. Solveigh Calderin Hereke Carpets - Tradition, Beauty, Luxury and Elegance Follow me on Twitter Find me on Facebook

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ajay singh

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Good idea. some common words like a SEO could be used to make the automated connections.Members could subscribe to the option. Ajay

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Amita Shanbag

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Networking is a big buzz word on ecademy. We as millions of individuals around the world belong to a social and economic network. Networking on ecademy is aimed to connecting individuals with a common interest. It could be a charity group, chamber of commerce, church, or just about any kind of alliance. The connection needs to be political, religious, charitable, social, business or non-profit. We choose to form a network of activists in order to channel our energies and resources into doing actions. For fruitful action, we need to interact well, communicate professionally and in a timely way and let alliances take their natural course to better international harmony, cooperation and understanding.

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Emma James

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Interesting proposition William

but not one which fills me with cheer. I can't think of anything worse. I'm only too happy to grow my network organically as already outlined but being force fed new members simply because they've attend the same event for example....no thanks! It's hard enough to keep up with valued existing contacts as it is. If my network goes exponentially becuase I'm networking actively offline as well as dipping in and out of the Blogs and Clubs not only would the numbers become ever more meaningless, the quality of my communication and interaction with my network would plummet still further (I do try to keep up but like most of us, I'm running a business too). It's a no from me then ;) Massage Therapy Therapy Suite

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Wolfgang Boenisch

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Pretty good idea William. This will not only increase the numbers, but will strengthen the connections. I would like to have such an automatic connection tool for events. And to add this up, it would be even better, if I can flag my connections in a way to know for ever on which occassion we met before. Wolfgang Boenisch Master of Negotiation Arts - Werkstatt für Verhandlungskunst Follow me on twitter

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Alan Stevens

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Who connects the connectors?

William, An interesting idea, and obviously a popular one judging by the astonishing number of "likes" in 30 minutes since you posted it. For a moment there, I thought I might have posted the most popular blog of the day, but by the time I post this comment, I suspect it will be this one instead. No matter. Anyway, to your idea. I think the idea of connecting people automatically, whether online or at an event, is likely to be less helpful in business terms than deliberate connections. I realise that I'm out of step with the "random" thinking in Ecademy presently, but to take the example of Twitter (which we've discussed before), I have no desire for automatic connections with anyone. In fact, even the terms "Closed Selective and Controlling" versus "Open Random and Supportive" suggest that being selective and choosing your connections is "worse" than randomness. Ironically, dividing people into two groups which may not even exist is "Controlling" in itself, a paradox that seems to be lost on many. Hey ho. On with the debate. Best wishes Alan Alan Stevens, Author of The Pocket Media Coach. Presenter of The Mediacoach Radio Show Director of MediaCoach Training and Coaching for Media Skills, Presentations and Public Speaking. Specialists in Crisis Management. Tel/Fax +44 (0) 20 8220 6919 Mobile : 07986 852621 Watch a video of me speaking to London Ecademy here. Watch my videos at Your Business Channel Follow me on Twitter

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Ian Williams

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

William - In principle a great idea, HOWEVER I really like Dilip's suggestion of making it the choice of the individuals. i.e. suggestions as to who to connect to and the reason why: e.g. Person: Betty Smith, Reason: You are both attending #### event on the #th August. Is that possible? Ian Williams +44 (0) 7962 058123 ian@jerichotraining.com Website: http://www.jerichotraining.com Twitter: http://www.jerichotraining.com/twitter.aspx Blog: http://www.jerichotraining.com/blog.aspx Skype:

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Sue Searle

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If Ecademy is connecting business people....

Hi William, I think it is a good idea on the whole. Sometimes you miss people at events due to numbers, can't connect the face to the business card afterwards, and so on. It would be helpful to be connected automatically. You never reach everyone and random connections can be as useful as planned ones. Give it a try! It might not appeal to the quality brigade but I can see benefits. Suggestions in other websites are sometimes very useful so worth a try. People will soon let you know how they find it! It would have to be failry selective, otherwise, as Steven says, we might as well just connect everyone to everyone! :-D But at some events you have a common factor anyway. All the best, Sue Tags2Web Intuitive Web Design in Surrey More button @TwitterIcon.com

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Laurence Lowne

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I was just asked to contribute here, and noticed this amongst the paragraphs: Do please LIKE the blog by clicking the word LIKE at the top of the post. That helps it gets as much visibility as possible. Why? Isn't that just the same as the spurious request to like me back becuse I like your profile? Stamp collectors and approval ratings. Where's the UNLIKE button Laurence

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Patrick London

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Not a day goes by that I don't read your blog. Go for IT!

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Margaret Orem

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I would prefer that my connections not be notified about whether I like a blog or not--to me this would border on spam. Many of my connections have zero interest in certain blogs or already watch one or more I may like. I was not certain whether clicking Like above means I like the Blog as a concept or like the concept. Therefore, I did not click it.

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Dilip Mutum

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I rather like the idea of having networking suggestions (something similar to Facebook and Linkedin) but would like to keep the final decision. In other words, I get to choose who I connect to rather than have an automatic system do it for me. Cheers, Dilip Mutum http://www.adamok.net http://twitter.com/admutum

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Helen Winder

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Networking is a natural progression of business and personal growth. We have to network to develop and create our own connections (if that makes sense!) Helen Founder & Partner of Office Helper - UK Leaders in Outsourced Business Support Inspirational Speaker and Writer

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Graham Bunting

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My view is that networking is all about making connections and how you do that clearly depends upon opportunity and preferences. For me as an Open Random and Supportive individual this soulds a great idea. Connections that are random sometimes act as a catalyst (for me) and usually welcome. I am respectful of other peoples different perspectives to my own and always welcome a different view - without which we would all be a bit one dimensional. graham@peraconsulting.co.uk 07836 389389 www.peraconsulting.co.uk

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Stella Holman "The Connector"

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Great idea William Kind regards Stella Holman- The Connector . . . Business Services:#BGifts © UK Partner | BGifts-Belgium Office :#BGifts © Ivey Business Services |# Distributor for Healthy Chocolate**Eat for Health | #Healthy Chocolate 14 Day Trial Ecademy Club : #Connector-Trading Club Social Business Network : Ecademy | Linkedin | Invite to connect on Xing | customer services-work-work projects needed | Facebook The #Million Dollar Challenge is a ground-breaking online collaboration which brings you over US$1B in sales expertise.

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Nathalie Jamois

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Well it's nice to be asked for an opinion prior to stuff happening rather than feedback after it happened. Nathalie. Bespoke | Budget websites

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