If I could genuinely help you would you want to know?

I'm closely watching how a blog I wrote about Ecademy's Marketplace is developing.

http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=180865&t=1

I was surprised that there is a sentiment that

a) Marketplace is actually for ex-Ecademy rather than the members; and
b) offering Ecademy members services and products is unwanted and a form of 'hawking' and
c) people think less of me for offering.

I am curious ...

(NB: if you commented on the other blog then perhaps its unnecessary to duplicate your comments here. Tx for your input BTW).


Andrew Priestley

Andrew Priestley

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If I could genuinely help you would you want to know?

Vladimir Right at the top of the Ecademy page is a log and the words Inbox > Blogs > Boartdrooms etc and the word More. Click on More and a dropdown says Marketplace. In this area you can promote and offer the 'marketplace' your goods and services. There are two reasons to do this. 1. If you 'embed' offers into blogs etc you annoy the members. It ties in with the Ecademy ethos about relational/transactional. Ecademy is primarily a social space.So if you see it as a centralised easy pickings database you will quickly find yourself on the outer. 2. Ecademy has such valuable links to things like Google search that your Marketplace offerings have almost instant searchability ex-Ecademy. Read the blog and you will see Blackstars like Tim and William and Laurence have all been suggesting this benefit. In any case - worth a look/see. Hope that helps. I

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Andrew Priestley

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Tim I am starting to understand this now. And importantly, I've spent several days now just watching Marketplace and reading the offers and follwoing up to the links and it is amazing what I am starting to pick up. (BTW: William Buist suggested that Blackstars receive additional benefits and support in this area).

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Andrew Priestley

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If I could genuinely help you would you want to know?

RSH, interesting feedback and appreciated. Sounds like you are quite disappointed. I sell a lot of stuff to mates, and a lot more of people I sell to become mates. I need to qualify that though. If I think a mate might benefit from what I have to offer I will offer it. I would never sit back and not offer something because I'm worried about offending. I had a mate who leased trucks and I could see how he could save £3210 per vehicle over the life of those leases. All up that save him £80271 over the life of the lease. But to get him that saving I had to offer him my advice (which means leg work and paperwork). I couldn't imagine my self sitting on that info. I KNOW my offer strengthened our relationship not damaged it. He is a family man like me and £80 grand is school fees, money paid off his mortgage, a decent holiday and £20000 he could loan to his daughter for a deposit on a flat in London - money he didn't have to find. He paid my bill and refers me work and still buys me lunch. What I also know is he didn't get that benefit once. He now gets it ongoing so that idea isn't worth just £80,000. Over the next 10 years that will be closer to £1m in savings. I worked with a client and it later emerged that his accountant could have saved him £168,000 but they didn't tell the client ... because they didn't want to 'sell' to him. He was furious and rightly so. Some buy, some don't, so what? But my nana used to say, "Andrew if you don't ask, the answer is always 'no'.' Umm ... I agree I haven't got the hang of it which is why I am asking. Lets agree to disagree about false dreams and illusions. The people who have contacted me privately via these blogs are quietly confident that Marketplace works as a strategy. They would suggest there is some significant compensation for at least trying to understand and master this tool. Clearly it works. I am trying to understand how and what they are doing.

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Vladimir Dimitroff

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What marketplace?

Where is it? Why should I want to know about it?

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RealSteveHolmes Fading away soon

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I never even look at Marketplace. If I wanted something I would seek out someone who writes well and acts sociable every time. I can get impersonal boasts in the Yellow Pages and we all know what's happening to them. They missed the boat. Social means what Tim says it means, though I think the term "mates" is stretching it rather. This is a brand new form of relating to people and we do not yet know how it will change us and our concepts of friendship but one thing's for certain: selling stuff to your mates is part of that disgusting MLM phenomenon and we're ll glad to see the back of that. I don't think anyone's quite got the hang of it yet (not Thomas,not you and not Lyndon) but business networking is so far only a false dream for the most part, a last resort for people without enough work and income. They buy the illusion and then tire of it, all 6 million of them so far.

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Andrew Priestley

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I am reading How to Really Use LinkedIn by Jan Vermeiren and Bert Verdonck and their number one tip is be clear on the goals as to why you are using the site. I think this is true for Ecademy and I am starting to see the wisdom in that tip via your comments. Go to >>> http://www.andrewpriestley.com/resources.php

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Andrew Priestley

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Tim, that is exactly the conclusion I came to! I guess it begs the question: are people on Ecademy 'mates' or prospects? It seems if I read all the comments I am starting to see that Marketplace is very much an SEO/search strategy for ex-Ecademy. For example, Clare Hegarty isn't pitching for Ecademy biz - and the copy suggests that too. (People on ecademy might need her services, BTW).

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Andrew Priestley

mr-andrewpriestley-117953

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Laurence really liked your comments and on the other blog. I went to Marketplace and did a search on your activity and I am guessing but you have (?) one business but several offerings and b) you systematically Marketplace those offerings on a repeating listing cycle (?) And the copy is really good too. I was reflecting on what I was learning from examples such as yourself and Clare Hegarty and it is slowly starting to come together but I would appreciate anything you can tell me on how you make it work tactically. Got the strategy. Again - appreciated

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Claire Pitts

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I am coming more to the conclusion that ecademy is a place I find some great tips, read interesting blogs and chat with people I would otherwise never meet. I don't think I will sell anything here, but in a way that doesn't matter. Of course, that's probably a reflection of my blogs and marketplace activity than ecademy! Claire

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Tim O'Donnell

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The way I see it ....

if you had a mate who tried to sell you something everytime he visited, gow long would he remain a mate?

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Andrew Priestley

mr-andrewpriestley-117953

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Appreciate your feedback. I am genuinely getting some really good ideas about Marketplace and the feedback from those who use it well has been pretty inspiring.

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Mark Hutchinson

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I've just returned to Ecademy after being off the site for around 3 years. When I was here before I used to use it as my preferred source for products/services, however I felt I was alone in doing this. And again when I was here before trying to proactively promote your services was frowned upon, which to me is a part of why we're all here - personally I'd love to hear from anyone who feels they can help me move forward (may or may not buy but always open to a conversation), again I seemed to be along with this line of thinking. As someone considering returning to Ecademy I read your Marketplace blog with great interest and clearly it seems to be working well for some people so I'm looking forward to giving it some committed effort and seeing what I can generate from it over the next 3 months. However I would generally agree with the sentements you have outlined above as being the general consensus - unfortunately.

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