OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

would you like me to leave it as it is or change it to look like and work like Google+ since that's the current flavour of the month (next few years).

The reason I like Google+ is because it's a clone of the Ecademy blog (threaded conversations) with more tools.

Linkedin, Facebook, Twitter have shot their load now and will fade away into the distance so I have no desire for new ecademy to look like them even though I know you use them alot (and still will).

75m people a day use Google+ so it makes sense to emulate the current fashion for what is effectively a streaming blog (G+). Pinterest and Tumblr do not appeal to me at all (sorry to them).

Please speak so the designers and devs can hear your preferences. And please don't hold back. Throw it at me (us/them).

Andreas Wiedow

andreas_wiedow

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Dunno if it fits in here . . . bring back the . . . #1 - Upgrade voucher BUT without the need to enter payment details prior to testing the side as PowerNetworker for a month. #2 - Privileged 3 months BlackStar Life Upgrade voucher to test the side as PowerNetworker for THREE months.

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Paul Clark

paulclark1-42180

Function before form

Mark's questions are on the button. To make the point even more explicit - it is completely premature to be talking about what a new Ecademy website should look like until there is clarity on: who it is designed for what benefits it is intended to provide what functions are to be supported how the website fits into the overall Ecademy proposition / experience. Comments regarding the charging model and removal of advertising suggest a clear choice that Ecademy members will be customers of the network; not the product as is the case with Facebook, for example. This means a focus on customer proposition is critical if the business is to attract new members. So, a challenge for Thomas, Lyndon, or anyone else here who thinks they can meet it - imagine we're one year in the future and 'New Ecademy' is up and running... now write down in a maximum of 100 words who should join, and why.

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Mark Lee

marklee

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Questions Who is your target audience and are they familiar with Google+ ? Is the ambition to engage and retain existing users of Exademy or to reach out to non-Ecademsts who are familiar with Google+? What would attract someone who likes Google+ to also engage on Ecadrmy, especially if it looks and feels similar? I thInk I must have misunderstood the original question. Mark Ps: re 'Why Ecademy exists' - i hope you and Lyndon will work on bettering those soundbite replies which seem too generic to me, in the context of designing the Ecademy of the future.

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John L. Evans

locris-23877

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Make it too hard for idiots!!

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John L. Evans

locris-23877

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Needs a lot of work to make it a little more intuitive, but don't change the look, etc... are we not supposed to be intelligent people: G, et fb, etc. are designed for the slowest man, the lowest common denominator - please assume (sometimes despite appearances) that the lowest common Ecademy denominator is slightly higher - make it a differentiator; you have to have a brain to be able to 'work' here... :)

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Danielle de Valera

daniellede-valera-668759

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

The average person in the street - at least in Aust'a - does not know how to use G+. They don't go there. Keep it simple and accessible.

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Fred Rutgers

fredrutgers-186363

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Thomas, and all, You do not want to look like google, You want everybody want to look like you!!! Keep getting things moving! Fred Rutgers

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Gordon Wheaton

gordonwheaton-294525

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Great question Thomas. I do like it at the moment. But I think you should change it. And similar to Google + would be a good thing. As you say flavor of the month Regards Gordon

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Ziona Etzion

zionaetzion-419057

Should it not be about interaction and benefits, not DESIGN!

To remain relevant Ecademy has to provide value. What value are you looking to provide by design? I think that we have a number of Social Networks that we receive friendship and attention. We have one or two that give us business connections? What does Ecademy want to stand for? Network meeting....there is meetup. What do you really want to afford the community at this time? What is relevant to people?

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Georgina Lester

georginalester

Other things that could be considered in a new Ecademy design

Topic listsI like the fact that we can see NetNews in different streams as in BlackStar, Spotlight and our connections I would like that extended so that we can see focused streams according to subject matter incorporating ANYONE on Ecademy for example like Facebook - as in my social media list which consists of any social media people I know on Facebook and FB pages of SM experts I know of. Other examples Architecture and Architects and Arts Wales.Twitter lists - as in this one on Marketing so that you can easily see the newsfeed but also who is in the list too (don't like the way Facebook does this as it is too slow)Google plus circlesLove the simplicity of Friendfeed lists With these focused streams I would like the option of including an "About this list" like the "Editor's Note" on Paper.li. The lists can include:-RSS feeds available for these lists so that they could possibly be fed into other sites. For example this is my Marketing Daily paper which consists of following Twitter lists to do with Marketing, Social Media and Networking.Social sharing and like buttons too.Filters so that lists can be sorted according to score, alphabetical, possibly industry, etc. As far as I am aware no-one does that on curated listsFollow buttons so that anyone can follow these focused streams. Done in such a way that they can be added as an option on their own profile for others to see what they are following. Can be hidden or open so that people can either quietly follow things for their own personal research and monitoring or as a way of openly/publicly demonstrating their interests and expertise. Vouching What are people known for - as in +K on Klout preferably with the ethos of the Respect Trust Framework as on Connect.Me (which is about to go into public beta). These vouches could be fed into a directory (like this +K for Ecademy on Klout) which could possibly work alongside the topic listing incorporated already in the Ecademy score. FollowingLike on Mashable, Huffington Post or Quora with options of suggestions of other people to follow according to who they have followed already. Profiles I would like to be able to navigate to different elements of an individuals profile either through tabs, menu options etc but perhaps a side menu like on Efactor rather than yet another menu across the top (we have three on profile pages) Summary visible above the fold with buttons to follow, add to lists/circles, connect, message, etc..Easy on the eye - like About.Me but with simple professional design that doesn't have so much personalisation perhaps like Efactor or the Connect.Me cards if you can remember what they look likeXeeme.com type summary page of links to other sitesShare my profile/Connect with me social message option on our page which can also be used by others to promote other peopleTo encourage data collection so that you can offer constant improvements according to what people tell you about themselves, I would suggest that hte profile pages can be updated in bite sized chunks individually updateable boxes - having different tabs might help with that.Encourage updating profiles - perhaps when people log in they are taken to their profile page first before navigating to the news feed pagesSummary boxes perhaps showing top three most popular blogs, latest blogs, top three most active groups, latest market place ads, top three testimonials, most recent likes, etc. Each can lead to page with fuller information and so with further links to Ecademy community pages as a whole making things like groups, Ecademy score, etc. accessible through following personal interests and natural curiosity Visually I prefer Efactor to Linked In for professional feel. Don't like Xeeme, FB is getting more familiar, and not fond of the relatively new layout of Twitter - preferred the old style as it was much easier to navigate to things like lists etc. MarketplaceI agree with the options of filtering, directory listings, hide/show options to encourage members to use it more as a resource. Company pagesMade more visible, perhaps as an tab/menu option to distinguish Company from private. TestimonialsMuch more accessible easier to see. Perhaps top three included in a summary box in the profile page preferably above the fold too if possible.Option to Like testimonials so that those who write good ones get rewarded for doing soOption for profile owners to leave a reply so that they can add further context, express gratitude, etc Hope that helps - and is in time for your discussions with the developers.

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Sharon Eden

sharoneden-561851

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Wow! So this is what you were talking about, Thomas :) And I'm all for bringing the Ecademy platform into 2012/13... but why not bring it into 2020 and be even more innovative than existing sites? Ecademy Plus Plus Plus? I'm for change as long as it supports Ecademy's raison d'etre... connecting business people a friend in every city building community There are some great positive comments and ideas here from a whole bunch of people which I endorse. How exciting! Sharon

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Fred Rutgers

fredrutgers-186363

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

One more, Sorry to drag on! Can members get credibillity points for succesfull referrals! Like the expertisepoints on Linkedin! Could I be able to vouche for other members to givevthem more credibillity if I have positive experience with such members?! Cheers Fred

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Fred Rutgers

fredrutgers-186363

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Lets stop being digitall Amish! Let's create the new standard of networking. Copying Gplus us a sign of creative poverty!! With all members thinkpower we should be able to set the new standard!! Why limit ourselves to being copycats! I know we can do it! We have the members! We have the users! We have the mowners! We have the criticasters! We have members who darevto challenge our thoughts! We have the ambassadors! We have the dreamers! We have the winners! We havevthe experience! Let's also have the creativity and take online networking to the next level!!! I know we can! Can you? Let's just do it! Cheers Fred

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Fred Rutgers

fredrutgers-186363

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Hi Thomas, Hmm you got me thinking.... How about a few new fields.... I'm looking for.... I can offer you...... Who can introduce me to someone who...... A friend of mine us looking for..... Who wants to be introduced?!.... Would be great is you could f ilter and search on these fields..... Perhaps the filter only for premium members. Could we get connect suggestions from the system based upon fields we can fill with profiles? E.g. Please suggest connection to people who work in sustainabillity and are active members.... Would people who have great added value to fellow members ulify for dscount of extra features? Like popular blog f the day, week month, could we get featured member of the dy, week, month? Triggerred by activity, postings, referrals, etc. Could blackstar members get better visabillity on ecademy? Extra stimulus to upgrade! Could premium members get better visabillity for their blogs? Could I get a filter on the blog section where I can search on keywords? Would blacstars or premium members be able to get sms allerts on their mobile? Could we buy credits for this service and be able to tell the system wen to allert us for what? Would you consider a how to make money on and with Ecademy team? Could we get social, business and combined premium memberhips and functionallities? Could active members be rewarded as such by alowing them to offer fremium functions to other members to let them try new premium functions? Thomas I can go on for ever if you let me... Lets work on ths together..... Cheers Fred

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Phillip Khan-Panni

PKP

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

>building community Can you do that online alone? ROSEE seemed to fill a hole. Arthur P. mentioned the "mock up that Daniel showed at ROSEE - that was good!" Whatever happened to that? In fact, what happened to Daniel Priestley and his plans for Ecademy? Are you back in harness, Thomas? PKP

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George Wallace

georgewallace1-619875

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Leave the basic design as it is but improve the performance of the applications. Make major improvements to the Man Machine Interface test the system plus model the system

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Ian Moncrieff MacMillan

ianmmacmillan

Start with why...

Start with why Ecademy exists. What job or jobs does Ecademy help get done, and for whom? And this could, perhaps should, include jobs that many of the members don't even realise will soon become important to them (as one key job Ecademy/Thomas gets done is anticipate what's coming next, and pre-positioning for it). Then lower the bar so that it's really simple, easy and affordable (in so many ways) to get these jobs done via Ecademy. Some jobs may take a long time to get done (if ever - such as creating relationships and building trust), but that's ok too. And I like how you're thinking about the business model up front, as that's a part of the design of the Ecademy ecosystem - probably the key part of the design - and one that you've not cracked yet. Regards, Ian Moncrieff MacMillan

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Richard J Francis

richardfrancis1-363696

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Some really good feeedback - so I won't repeat all of it. My top comment would be the world seems to be doing two things: 1) Connecting on ideology 2) Looking for 'watering holes' (real & virtual) where that ideology can be shared, discussed, tested, added-to/developed and disseminated out to others who are suspected to want to connect with it. That to me is more important than whether it's Google+ in look or feel or not. Nothing will ever stop clever sparks from inventing new platforms - but it's really important that whatever platform ecademy emulates and/or bolts into - that it doesn't compromise on it's ability to allow people to connect on ideology better than wherever else they could do that.

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Russell Davison

russell-davison-444943

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

You need to put the text into a scrolling text box, like G+ does, so that posts with more than 300 words can be scrolled to make reading easier.

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Nick Ingram

nickingram-72378

Are you offering jobs/board positions/remuneration ...

... here Thomas? I think that you will find better value by publishing or discussing your business plan first then people will be able to see whether it is worth the fag to get involved in helping/working for you on this newest business venture. Are any of these roles on the various teams that you have appointed to be paid? How much budget have you allocated to development, marketing, design etc? How much are the paying members to be paid for introductions? How much do you expect this business to generate? How will the business be set-up - Limited, partnership, co-operative, LLP? How will the shares be allocated if ltd? Who's on the board?

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RealSteveHolmes Fading away soon

cvsage-38854

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

It's fine by me as it is.

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William Buist

WilliamBuist

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Spot on Alan, love this.

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Alan Rae - Business Communicator

alan-rae-50531

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

I think that you need to be very clear on what the core brand values that you have are and what are the reasons that people stick with you here when there is a lot that they can also get elsewhere. The brand values I detect are basically live R&D and "Business is about blending head and heart" The things that made Ecademy Unique are 1) Blend of online and face to face networking 2) Availability of heavyweight business discussion 3) Ability to make what you do connectable to other online spaces and SEO / tagging friendly 4) The ability to build a network which is sustainable across platforms. The things that it's always been crap at are dealing with with woo and having a decent media importing interface. Yes you can do it but compared to taking a snap on your iPad and whacking it into facebook it sucks. So you need to fix the things its poor at (media interface) and then make sure that the facilities on the site facilitate the list of things that made you great. Tagging, Curating, ease of giving other people credit and making sure you get some good heavyweight content again is what is going to take the brand forward. And I would echo all the comments made about making it easy to find and repackage existing blocks of content. Doing that in FB is a 'mare because FB is built around the idea of current chat. However you might add a "group-lite" feature that emulates FB groups because not everything needs to be heavy duty. Reposition the groups to make them equivalent to the blogs and revisit that old idea of using the platform to support other people's networks. Oh and you will need to make sure that people can sign in using twitter / facebook / google IDs and give them the opportunity to import contacts from other platforms into the groups they own. Ecademy has always been about shared learning experiences in a fast moving environment ,building networks of relevant contacts, together with facilitating links to other online spaces and building personal profile via SEO etc. So focus your development work around that. :)

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Phillip Khan-Panni

PKP

What did I miss?

Where can I find the start of this discussion? This thread seems to be a continuation of an earlier conversation about changes to Ecademy. I'd like to catch up. But can you please clarify if you are are talking about appearance or function, when you say 'design'? PKP

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Chaten Parmar

chatenparmar-96696

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

The logical approach... Step 1: Functionality Is there anything new in the pipeline for Ecademy, small or big? Anything that needs its own space or at the very least needs design consideration? Is there also any original development coming from Ecademy in terms of functionality? Step 2: Strip Down After figuring out what needs to be added, decide what needs to be stripped away. Ideally try and strip away as much as possible......simplify it all. Whats needed and whats not (and be harsh) Step 3: Asthetics It does need a revamp...Demos pretty much summed it up. So the question is.... Step 4: Style What style should Ecademy have? It has to step up with a modern touch but what style exactly, would need some experimentation, development and research which leads onto.... Step 5: Branding Again as mentioned above(below), Ecademy needs more of a brand presence. It needs a boost in brand imagery not just for the homepage but across the whole platform. It needs to make its own original statement. Step 6: Other Brands Looking at other brands/platforms is all good and essential. Copying ideas is also a core design and development technique: "Good artists copy, great artists steal"? - Pablo Picasso The idea of "look like" is what makes Ecademy a Good platform rather then a Great platform. This reiterrates Step 5. The idea is "Don't Copy.....Steal!" Step 7: The youth Ecademy definately misses out on a younger crowd. (food for thought). Thats me done for the day :)

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Arthur Partridge

arthurpartridge-370537

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Whatever the concensus, it has to look clean, sharp and most importantly, uncluttered, almost simple. Are you talking about the mock up that Daniel showed at ROSEE - that was good!

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Maurice Poole

mauricepoole-96500

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

I start with the preference to maintain and incrementally improve what is, as far as I am concerned, the best now. Why else would I spend more time on Ecademy than on all the others put together - by one or two orders of magnitude that is? Having said that, a business, organisation or however you position it, ought not to stand still but keep itself fit for a changing marketplace. I don't hunger for emulation of other sites, not even Google+ which "feels" next best - well, no it doesn't, because I disagree about LinkedIn which is next after Ecademy. Those two "runners up" seem to be endorsed by my peer group too. In short, add some bells and whistles if you like, don't destroy the clean, easily navigated nature of what we have (another point of disagreement with some, perhaps the existing consensus?) and try to find the real functions to add that would help everyone. I'll start by saying 1. document sharing 2. on-line collaboration but someone might say they are available elsewhere so Ecademy is already behind that game. What have Google+, LinkedIn and Twitter in common? Most of their functions and members are there free of charge. But don't forget your BlackStar Life investors and others including PowerNetworkers that have paid and are paying for use of Ecademy as it is. F******k? You can stick it up your jumper. Please, oh please, don't turn Ecademy into a playpen.   Maurice

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Danielle de Valera

daniellede-valera-668759

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Thomas, I hope you won't go the G+ option. I love this site, it's simple and beautiful and it makes sense to me - which G+ unfortunately does not. Surely there are other people like me out there, who are not digitally savvy like you big boys, and who also appreciate the simplicity and effectiveness of this site as it stands. Best to you, Danielle

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court guinness

courtguinness-392119

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Do something different to generate value and thus income. Please do not try to copy G+

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Robert Craven

robert-craven-22343

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

So far all sounds good... Good to see the engagement here... RC

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Mike Morrison

rapidbi

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Please think about quality of members not quantity - more quality will in the end pay more IF they perceive a BUSINESS value (i.e. ROI of some form). As you have already alluded there are free sites so a BOGOFF approach will undermine the value. If you want to attract more business-like-people then the site needs to work directly as well as directly. That we CHOOSE what is public - so for example WE choose if a comment we make on a given post can be shared or not. This will encourage more people to comment on more things as its right that some people consider their netrep when commenting. with posts & threads - can we have the option of either highlighting or ordering posts & comments by date - sometimes on some posts its hard to see new comments in the middle of a long set of comments! as for design - don't imitate - innovate!

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Georgina Lester

georginalester

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

I like the fact that here on Ecademy netnews, blog posts, comment history, likes, etc. can be seen in separate threads. Makes accessing the chunks of value in the blogs and comments much easier. I wouldn't want to change that necessarily. I also like what William says here "Lots of groups of people so that you can follow the right groups for you," Groups that we can choose to follow rather than be added to like Facebook or G+ by others according to their needs and wishes please. I am sure that it happens to you, where loads of people add you to their circles and then "share" lots of irrelevant stuff with you. That is going to annoy people because it is spam. Whilst that has introduced me to people that I would like to follow, I would like to be able to make that decision myself please! Remove the 5000 limits and have no limits on the number of circles - if possible. As I think I have said elsewhere, it is great being able to tag people in posts giving them credits for comments, etc. (e)Empire Avenue +Google and @Facebook and @Twitter. Could be a brilliant way of getting more people engaged. More later probably ...

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Peter H. Claes

peterclaes-97717

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

could be easy that we can have more search options like for event, today you need to choise all or your own country. It would be great if i could select f.e. the nederlands... Grtz Peter

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Andreas Wiedow

andreas_wiedow

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Aaah, THAT is why G+ appealed to me right from the start . . . congrats, ecademy, stay as you are, you lovely old lady . . .

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John Amy - Graphic Design

johnamy

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

No!! No cheesy graphics. html editors in blogs... so messy.

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Martin Dewhurst

martin-dewhurst-30038

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Simple photo sharing and HTML editor for blogs.

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Laurence Lowne

donny88-24613

lose the animated adverts

they are memory hungry and continually make pages hang

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Julia McDaid

juliamcdaid-47153

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

You need an App too! Loving the new G+ one, very slick

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Carolyn Williams

carolynwilliams-253741

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

EcademyPlus!!! Plus graphic as opposed to just a noun! Sharing and Gaining something MORE! It's stair rodding here in Wales! Wales! Wales! I've just come back from 'Flash flooding skating' (in my noo Zetec Fiesta) through Mumbles. C:)x

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Fred Rutgers

fredrutgers-186363

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Could I please get the funion to schedule messages to be send in future? Great for reminders and birthday messages etc... Cheers Fred

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Julia McDaid

juliamcdaid-47153

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Take the best bits from all of them makes the most sense, though I guess views will differ on this I'd say we want to be able to easily comment, share, find, like, maybe highlight favourites etc, I find the speed of movement of G+ too fast at times, you don't even have time to see things.

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William Buist

WilliamBuist

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Lots of groups of people so that you can follow the right groups for you, Information about who has you in circles so that you know who your audience is Selecting circles to notify means a need for a notification system that isn't email based (unless that's what you want) but is easy to get at when you logon. Better search to find old blogs and comments. No hiding, archiving, removal, making read only , or other value destroying functions Encouragement of community and shared support feel, good spam controls so sales pushy buy now, join my MLM scheme stuff stays well away, as we have done here well. Easier to make and measure referrals given and received. But, I don't want it to work like Google plus, I want it to draw on the best features of all of the sites and put them together in brilliantly better, innovatively different ways. After all If we *just* copy G+ then I might as well *just* use G+ Thomas, you need to be much bolder than that.

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Carolyn Williams

carolynwilliams-253741

OK so on the subject of a new Ecademy design

Change it! Love it when they + add celebrations and seasonal flavours to the designs. Tx C:)x

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