The Law of Attraction - An Understanding

I have just watched the programme 'The Secret' (www.thesecret.tv) and followed this up with reading a book by Beth Misner called 'Jesus and The Secret'.

For those wondering how and why we are all experiencing success or otherwise in our daily lives, you will do worse than take time out to view and read both.

They also help to show why, if you dwell on the 'negative', you will get more of the 'negative'. Dwell instead on the 'positive' and you will attract the 'positive'. As Jack Canfield advises, "Focus on what you want, not on what you don't want".

Together they will also help understand how and why many of the great minds of our time, past and present, succeeded. To quote a few:

"Imagination is everything. It is the preview of Life's coming attractions". Albert Einstein.

"If you believe it, if you see it, if you act upon it, it will show up. That's the truth". Rev Dr Michael Beckwith.

And finally......

"Follow your bliss and the Universe will open doors for you where there were only walls". Joseph Campbell.

The Secret is the Law of Attraction. To understand this, watch the programme but also temper it by reading Beth's book. Her husband is also a member of Ecademy!

Regards

John

John Murray

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The Law of Attraction - An Understanding

This was posted on the LoA website, issued by those running that site: Every morning you have 2 choices, continue your sleep with dreams or to wake up and achieve those dreams. The choice is yours. Welcome every morning with a smile. Look on the new day as another special gift, another golden opportunity to complete what you were unable to finish yesterday. Be a self-starter. Let your first hour set the theme of success and positive action that is certain to echo through your entire day. Today will never happen again. Dont waste it all with a false start or no start at all. You were not born to fail. Many think the LoA is about Asking and it will automatically be Received. This shows that is not the case. It helps formulate dreams, helps provide ideas and opportunities but also those ideas and opportunities then must be acted upon. As stated above - taking 'positive action'! That for me is what the LoA is all about - don't feel that is too 'woo woo'. Regards John

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Martin Dewhurst

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Cheers John, the film clip is about Timothy Freke's experience of appreciation for his life. Having had a few rarified moments of pure appreciation like this where even standing in the rain feels like a blessing or a warm shower feels like a luxury, the film struck a chord with me. I recall vividly my first night sleeping in a cockroach infested ferry boat to Oran or on a floor mat in a refugee camp and I contrasted this discomfort with my previous life of relative luxury and fine living. I can still hear my inner voice saying "I will never, never, never again in my life complain about my food or my lodgings."

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John Murray

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Martin Many thanks for the comment - I have not added anything to this blog for a few days as I know some hope it will go away! I am commenting only as you have shot it back up the billboard! Unfortunately, we are unable to view YouTube over here before midnight - we are 3.5 hrs ahead of UK time. I will try and do so at a minute past, which is more than a minute past my bedtime! :-) This blog does seem to have 'attracted' a lot of attention. Not bad for a 'woo woo' blog. :-) Kind regards John

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Martin Dewhurst

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Each one of us experiences the world differently. Some are inspired by things whilst others are horrified, some experience revulsion in far off situations as I did watching Live Aid in 1985, whilst others step forward and seize the day, staying behind the scenes to get to the root causes of hunger and famine. I got sent his clip today from a friend and it reminded me of what it's like to nearly die on a number of occasions and then to experience life newly through the fresh eyes of appreciative consciousness.

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Stuart Harris

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It attracts a lot of people who want to argue about it. And this is the essence of what makes Ecademy attractive, or not. Nobody with any sense comes here to read interesting "articles". Are you kidding? The rest of the Internet has more than anybody could ever hope to read. Nobody with any sense comes here to make business connections. It may be possible, but there are much better ways of doing it. Nobody with any sense comes here to showcase their business, or enhance their personal business brand. The very notion is so ridiculous it's barely worth discussing. People come here for interaction and lively discussion. Not everybody, because there are some delicate flowers who don't like it when people cross swords. The site lights up when there are some controversies, and it languishes when the site is just a succession of people saying "great blog".

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William Buist

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Comment edited

As the previous comment has been removed by its author. and I thank them for that.

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Laurence Lowne

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Well it seems

Jane goes and comes back .......... more about her here This is the social enterprise Jane runs http://www.evenbreak.co.uk/ More here: http://www.evenbreak.co.uk/about-us/

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Martin Dewhurst

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Haha, Derek, you should know me by now, I never ever take offence. And, just loving your blogs of late Mr D. Beers soon!

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Martin Dewhurst

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Confession time. I ready your blog in the wee small hours of this morning Derek, but reading it on a phone didn't afford me the luxury of being as humorous as I'd wanted. I was dying to write ... Derek. Mate. Friend. We don't have time to ... ;-) And I had to be content to chuckling quietly to myself instead. Ah if only.

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Andrew Horder

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Nice story Anna, love it. I did a lot of visualising and affirming that I wanted to earn 50k a month, and couldn't work out why I didn't seem to be able to get much over £500 for a while. Until I added the word "pounds" - £500 = 50k pennies :)

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Anna Figiel

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A few years ago, over the course of a few days, I read a book on LoA - only the author called it something different. During those days, while my mind was contemplating this approach to life, I needed to nip up to the local garage for fuel. So I gabbed a £20 note and set off. En route I realised I would have to be extremely careful with the fuel nozzle not to fill more than £20 - normally it doesn't matter because I'm on the way to somewhere with all the contents of my handbag including a credit card. But on this occasion I just had £20. (It didn't occur to me then to under-fill!) So fuel was going in and I was watching the display and telling myself "don't go over £20". What happened? I overfilled by 2p .. doh! (Guess I attracted that.) So then I needed 2p and headed across the forecourt to the shop, wondering how I could persuade the assistant to let me come back with it. Astonishingly, while thinking about the 2p, I spotted a 2p coin on the concrete and picked it up. (Guess I attracted that too.) It had been raining and the coin was wet and oily - what I really needed now was something to wipe it on. As I entered the shop, the automatic doors parted to reveal a clean white tissue dropped on the mat inside. I don't either believe, dispute or advocate the LoA, but my petrol station experience gave me something to consider. Maybe it did work for 2p, but not sure I could pull it off in the Lottery!!

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Martin Dewhurst

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Dash it all man, that's a baldist statement ;-)

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Martin Dewhurst

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My children used to love me playing the troll, "who's that trip trap trapping across my bridge?" I'd say in my best troll voice, being in their late teens now it never fails to embarrass them when we're out with friends :-)

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Martin Dewhurst

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Amazing as it may sound, I just went past a bar in Leeds called Woo Woo, so that made me laugh as I drove by at midnight. Between me and thee John, our good friend white van man over on the other thread about Woo Woo, is actually a covert supporter of said Woo. You see, you me and he are all really on the same page, fiercely upholding our faith in the practical. I peddle seemingly impossible dreams, he supports me because I've approached said dreams with a practical mindset. You underpin your faith in the possible by taking practical action towards your desired outcome. So there we have it, we're all really on the same page and my guess is that LOA itself carries with it many an unconscious, unexamined assumption that in turn creates a natural repulsion for some and ironically an attraction for others. Semantics aside, regardless of the language we each may use on a day to day basis, we are each of us practical idealists and as such recognise that we only ever have one challenge, that of getting beyond our own self limiting beliefs. You're both ex-forces and for that alone (something i aspired towards) you have my total respect. So, here's to a practical possibility ... We three meet for a practical planning meeting in Leeds and we can say with total confidence in blog updates live from the scene, that Woo Woo is in fact very real :-) http://www.oceanaclubs.com/leeds/the-club/rooms/278

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Ralph Brown

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I have been working really hard on bringing new technlogy to the market. In the middle of this worldwide downturn in the economy we have stayed alive, I have kept a positive attitude and imagined what it felt like to break the World Speed Record for Circumnavigation, NOW Things are really looking up..... I stumbled into the right connections.... Don't know if it was the LOA or just, the harder I work the luckier I get... Now some of the world's best known brands are talking about sticking their brand on my boats for my next world record voyage...I already have three world records.... These three companies have a combined seven billion dollars budgeted for marketing. Now I am concentrating of finding one person with $250,000 in trigger capital. Their $250,000 will trigger a lot more and we will give them all their funding back double, from the sponsorship funding. Who do you know? I want to focus on both networking and the LOA. so Who do you know? Ralph D. Brown 352-346-2365

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Mike Bailey

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For years, man (and women I guess ) imagined flying like the birds, now we have wing suits, jet packs,gliders, airplanes and whilst birds still have the advantage in flight, the imagination of those early dreamers have got us to where we are now. For years man gazed up into the night sky and imagined what it was like on the moon, now we know (if you beleive) we have been in space, probes have travelled to Jupiter and beyond due to those early imaginations. For years man imagined a faster way of travel than horse power, Henry Ford delivered on that imagination and whilst it may be having an adverse effect on the global conditions, there is no doubt that the imagination has been realised. What we imagine, no matter how far fetched that imagination may seem at the time, we CAN achieve as a race, if not in our lifetime. The internet was in peoples imagination, now its in all our houses and offices and on our phones, years ago it was just smoke and mirrors (literally) within immediate line of sight, now its connect with people on the other side of the world instantly No matter how far out there the imagination is, if the determination is strong enough and the results rewarding enough, it will be acheived.

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Andrew Horder

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It works, I've proved it. Well, sort of. Manifestation or Self-Fulfilling Prophesy?? On a serious note (though that blog is in fact quite serious), I must say I never cease to find it disappointing, not to mention rather irritating, how some opponents of LoA feel the need to use reductio all the time to denigrate any mention of of it, and to repeatedly refer to their (good) reasons for annoyance at died-in-the-wool, 100% woo-woo, off-with-the-fairies, sit-and-dream-and-it'll-all-come-good LoA followers - even when the proponents actually involved in the discussion have repeatedly confirmed that's not their understanding. Everyone seems to agree that there's something to be said for focused action, would we not make better use of our time and resources to explore how that can be used to create magical outcomes, rather than just putting the whole concept down as silly magic.

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Anastasia Athans-Stothoff

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John, Great blog. I enjoyed reading the Law of Attraction and muse on the thoughts of obtaining everything I want or need, with a smile. :) I've had some positive experiences by putting the LoA to work in my life. All the while, knowing it is not an end all solution by any means. Leaving open that tiny crack in the theory gives it air and possibly dilutes the meaning a smidgen, but what's wrong with that? Everything we know and process is a direct reflection of who we are and what we believe so your use of the LoA will be different from my use the LoA, no matter the "rules." We all accept our own statements as ultimately true, as we think them. I'd like to point out (as you did) that adhering to the LoA in conjunction with other beliefs or personal motivators may be a nice blend. I don't think this should viewed as BLACK or WHITE. How about sticking with our personal convictions, motivations and beliefs and pepper it with the LoA? I realize, in and of itself, the definition of the LoA is 150% belief, but it doesn't have to be. If what works for you, works, don't fix it. :)

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Alan Stevens

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Perhaps we could stop calling it a "Law"?

Maybe the name should be changed from "Law of Attraction" to "Impact of focus". It's not a law in any sense, since a law is based on measured observations which then predict subsequent behaviour, often in a formulaic way, such as Newton's Laws of motion (though Einstein's theories offer exceptions in special circumstances). The LoA is based on anecdote, not measurement. It can't be used to predict outcomes. It has many exceptions. Some proponents try to link it with a misunderstanding or misinterpretation of quantum theory, but that's missing the point. A law explains the behaviour, not the process which causes it. The problem seems to occur because there are many interpretations of what the LoA is. For some, it's having a laser focus on a goal, and taking all necessary actions to achieve it, like an Olympic athlete or Ryder Cup golfer. For others, it is creating a thought or vibration which will attract what they think about, since they believe not only that things have built-in vibrations, but also that similar vibrations "attract". It's the latter pseudo-science that makes people (including me) treat LoA anecdotes with extreme scepticism. There are speakers in the file "The Secret", such as Joe Vitale, who put forward the vibrational theory of the LoA as being true, up to and including "manifstations". Their thoughts, and those of others like them are what gives the LoA a bad name. How ironic. Best wishes Alan

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John Paul

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They do what's needed/required and label it LoA - like a marketing trademark? It would take some strong evidence to demonstrate that prior to LoA nothing in the world, nor anyone in it for the last several thousand years could be considered 'successful' in any given activity or arena. In the end, if someone wants to attribute their own achievements to LoA, that's their business, I don't believe it'll catch on though as an all encompassing explanation - there are too many areas of life that need a bit more than wishful thinking. Since the Olympics is still relatively fresh, do you believe that the medalists would have achieved the same by wishing rather than working towards their goals?

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John Paul

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If LoA said it's about an idea, imagination, thought, planning, action and end result it would be more palpable - as that's what most people recognise is required. The little I know about LoA, all of which I've learned from its proponents on Ecademy, seems to suggest it only takes an idea/ imagination to 'manifest' things in reality, at least until the system is scrutinised. What's probably most damaging about it is that it gives some false or unachievable hopes, whilst I'm sure being a profitable industry.

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John Murray

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Hi Derek Nope - didn't forget - have posted here in previous comments that taking action, for me, is fundamental to this process. What I understand by the LoA is that it provides 'opportunities' and, again for me, when opportunity meets preparation = success. I visualise the end game, focus on it, seek it and when an opportunity arises I then take action. So, I hear what you are saying and agree. Regards John

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John Murray

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Hi Laurence I followed your link to Michelle Knight and the second paragraph there begins: Does it matter why it works? Do not let that stop you! This for me is the crux of all of this. It is a 'belief' system and for a large number of people, their 'belief' in the LoA makes it work - for THEM. You do not believe in it and therefore of course, it will not work for you. I have no doubt you will have certain, practical, beliefs based upon your own understanding and experience and for you, having 'faith' in those beliefs will help you to also succeed. I entitled this blog as Law of Attraction - An Understanding. And that is what this has been for me - an 'Understanding'. So many of those who are successful practice much of what is detailed by the full proponents of LoA. The writing down of specific goals, having a real focus on what they want, visualising having already attained their goal, reading these 'mantras' in the morning and in the evening and then they achieve success (in the main). To this they have to add passion and desire. Who are these I speak of? Napoleon Hill in 'Think and Grow Rich', Paul McKenna in 'Change Your Life in 7 Days' to name but two. That which I have just described are common to both the LoA and what Hill and McKenna describe in their books. They differ in other ways. However, it is clear to me that there ARE areas of great similarity and a common thread running through ALL of the goal-attainment processes - just that Man has called the same thing by so many different titles. Thanks for the comment (and also for again placing this blog at the top of the hit parade once more! :-) ) Regards John

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Laurence Lowne

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Cosmic Ordering and The Law of Attraction

then John, you must follow this too by argument. You can read more here from Michelle Knight It is interesting that mentions of Tarot and Readings appear as tags. Both of these have been declared as of entertainment value only by law in the United Kingdom and Europe. That is Law of the land and written into statutes. There is also a Wiki on cosmic ordering here Noel of Mr Blobby fame is perhaps the most well known proponent of this. It rather clouds positive thinking as cosmic ordering and therefore simply proves this is a marketing ploy.

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John Murray

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Laurence Let me get this right. You are really disappointed that a blog has secured 630 views and 42 comments. What's up - too much interaction, too much discussion? LoA is bunkum for you. For many others aspects or all of it is real life for them. If you feel the need to make such a comment, perhaps your point would be better supported by stating WHY it is bunkum, rather than just a poor comment, the first line of which shows exactly how much consideration you actually gave to the comment. Rather than writing such a poorly worded comment, probably would have been better not to have commented at all. JM

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Laurence Lowne

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The Law of Attraction - A total Misunderstanding

really disappointing to see this back on the front page. As with others on this thread, I believe that LoA is bunkum. Action is the key to success allied to good planning and measurement. Laurence Edited by adding bold to highlight my thinking

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John Paul

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Einstein was a brilliant physicist and he pursued that discipline - if he weren't and he still pursued it because he couldn't stop thinking about the idea of it, it wouldn't have made any difference at all.

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Ben Wilson

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I loved the film, very inspirational. Though people seem to get a bit too serious on both sides of the fence (for and against it). I think most people forget/overlook it is emotion that works to create action. Action gets results. Problem with the secret is that people think they can focus on something for a day or two, draw a vision board then wait for the results to come in the post. If the goal/vision does not stir emotion it most likely will not create action. While I think it is good in regards to some of the concepts in it. I would still put it way down the list of motivators for results. For example behind being a team environment (be it a actual team/mastermind etc), aligning your goal with your values, developing skills for your goal success, reducing fears etc are more important than visualising the goal as outlined in the secret.

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Robert Salter

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Yes, John, I am sure I can post MORE positive comments, but looking around the blogs I see not much has changed in the last few years. But, it's early days yet so who knows what changes the new owners will bring, hopefully they will be able to get the rivers of debate flowing and unblock the stagnant pools.

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Robert Salter

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The Law of Attraction - An Understanding - Blimey

I go away for four of so years and come back because I heard that some new bloke had taken over and there was not so much 'woo woo' or 'tree hugging' going on and lo and behold I find the Law of Attraction and that con, The Secret still being talked about. Oh dear, not much has changed has it?

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John Murray

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I have just read and commented upon Claire Pitt's blog 'Back To Church Sunday'. Coincidence............? Regards John

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RealSteveHolmes Fading away soon

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Everyone wants an easy answer but destiny is too complicated even for Shakespeare to master so none of you lot are going to come anywhere close.

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Mike Bailey

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I often see the LoA as more of an opening of the mind. Lets say you believe via LoA, that you will be recieving some money real soon through the post, of course the LoA isn't going to mail a cheque to you, but it may help open your mind enough to see a possibility that otherwise you'd have been shut off to, resulting in an income creating opportunity via direct mail. Ok a pretty crap example in a minutes thought, but thats the idea as I see it from reading some of these materials.

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Alan Stevens

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Thinking without action creates nothing. Unfortunately, the more hardcore adherents of the LoA believe that things can be "manifested", and appear without any action at all. I agree with William (as I often do these days). A focus on anything makes it more likely to achieve, because we take actions in the right direction. However, some things are genuinely impossible, regardless of how focused one is. For example, I can't become US President, walk on the moon or have a baby (not that I'm too bothered about any of them...). Alas, there are also LoA advocates who argue that if you can imagine something you can achieve it. That's clearly nonsense. Our imaginations far outreach our abilities. So I have no real problem with the LoA if it's about focussed action. If there's an attempt to create unrealistic expectations, it's probably the fault of people who misunderstand it. And it's certainly not a "Law", it's simply an idea. Best wishes Alan

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Stuart Harris

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The Law of Gullibilty

As a contrarian Simon you are subject to the Law of Distraction.

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Julia McDaid

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Focus Creates Reality ;-) And William puts it well If you think about something and focus on it, it's more likely to happen. End of, No big deal....... I've never managed to realise any of my goals without thinking about them and focussing on them, and, importantly, doing stuff to make them happen, but arguably I do stuff because I'm more capable of seeing and grasping opportunity if I have things in mind Interesting how few want to fully take responsibility for their own lives............

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John Murray

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Wow, Three great comments and from a short post that in no way wishes to open up any can of worms. That said, any comment made here is the responsibility of the person posting it - not mine. To answer Simon, why did I quote Einstein? Nothing more than the fact that this quote, and a picture of Einstein, is used in the actual film itself. Happy commenting! Regards John

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William Buist

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The whole thing about the people bringing 'stuff' on themselves is logically flawed. What the Jewish example really shows, from those who raise it to cause trouble (and that's not happened in this discussion), is that they have no discernible intelligence and no capability to have rational discussion. Seems to me the secret is no secret, If you think about something and focus on it, it's more likely to happen. End of, No big deal. I couldn't care less whether Einstein believed in LoA or not, his quote is valid in the context of allowing your imagination to guide what you want to happen and in helping you to focus on it. I've never managed to realise any of my goals without thinking about them and focussing on them, and, importantly, doing stuff to make them happen, but arguably I do stuff because I'm more capable of seeing and grasping opportunity if I have things in mind. I'd support John's view that it's worth watching and reading about the LoA and the Secret albeit with a sceptical mind, There are always valuable nuggets in seeing different ways to view the world.

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Simon Raybould

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Here we go again. :)

The last time this was raised on Ecad (that I noticed/remember) it got nasty eventually, with people pointing out that by the logic of The Law of Attraction, European Jews must have been concentrating on attracting some seriously bad karma. The consensus was that this didn't seem likely and that the LoA was (therefore) ****. Does anyone else remember those days? ;) On a more personal note, it seems a bit disingenuous (and a non-sequitur) to start quoting Einstein here. AFAK (and you too) the man himself didn't believe in the LoA. Why would you quote him, unless it's to imply that he did? Have I missed something significant? Or am I wrong and the man who understood things like Relativity also believed in the LoA. And Please, please, please don't respond by saying that 'quantum' something proves the LoA!

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Roger Vanstone

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Oh dear. This particular subject has been raised many times before on Ecademy and if I'm not mistaken the subject when discussed one time attracted a huge amounts of comments and ended up seeing about 20 people banned (that is now known as the night of the long knives). I know that some people believe in The Secret and the Law of Attraction without question and others feel it's completely wrong and without any substance. My only hope about this blog is that it doesn't end up with another 20 people being banned!

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